Hi! I just had several unrelated subjects I wanted to mention... Mike Wise wrote: "Ouch! That hurts. A. sp. São Gabriel Lyretail has just been reported to be a cleaner fish like some marine shrimps and blennies. I would love to see them in action. Koslowski now calls them A. sp. Putzer (Cleaner)." I haven't heard about A. sp. São Gabriel Lyretail being a cleaner, but I have heard that Serrasalmus nattereri (red-belly piranha) is said to act as a "cleaner fish" to bigger piranha species, and Etroplus maculatus (Orange Chromide, one of the three Asian cichlid species) is also supposed to clean larger fish, so perhaps A. sp. São Gabriel Lyretail does too. Also, George and Carol Richter wrote: "Recommendation - get an RO unit, only get it cheap if you are just experimenting. Should not cost you more than 80 bucks unless you want one of the big guys. If you show signs of Apisto sickness, an RO unit is probably in your future in any case. " You can get an RO unit for $80!?! Do you know where I would shop for these things? Finally, can anyone give me an idea how long I should soak driftwood? I don't mind the yellow color it leaches into the water (I think it looks kinda nice!) but I'm afraid that it will block out some of the light from my low-growing plants (I don't have enough light on my tank as it is). Any thoughts? Thanks! William Tracy ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!