Ok.. I have three apisto cacutoides.. one male two "females". one of the females recently has shown that she is really a HE.. getting a lyre tail, dorsal lengthening, yellow spots getting more evident on his fins. Black and yellow on the pectoral fins has disappeared/faded. I have a second "female" which I'd like to make sure its female. Is there any way to do this? I have not had a spawn yet, but I feel its because of my tankmates (which should be fixed soon..) a tiger pleco and an african butterfly fish (its a 15g tank). Any suggestions as to how to tell? *utterly confused, irritated* Susan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!