In a message dated 18/12/00 17:37:02 GMT Standard Time, fraulels@minet.ca writes: > I'll give a couple of examples. > With veijita in tapwater of 140ppm, clutches ran at about 10 to 20 fry at my > place. Once I softened that to 50-60ppm, I got up to about 50 fry. I've seen > the same general pattern with other species, whatever their origin. Veijita is a > softwater apisto. definately agree, I tend to keep all my apistos at default <30 ppm pH 4.5-5.5 and have had huge spawns from norberti, nijsseni, hongsloi, cacutoides, Rams and dicrossus filiamentosa. The only two species I've struggled with are borelli and hippolytae - can anyone tell me the preffered conditions for breeding them? Alan W ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!