I would just like to add one further question. It was my understanding that without dithers or other *threats*, the male or female spawning apisto will/may turn on the other. For this reason, I thought it helpful to keep other fish in the tank with them. With this in mind, placing them in the 10 gallon alone would not necessarily be a good idea, though putting a guppy or two in there might just mean I wind up with 2 dead guppies. I previously had chocolate gouramis in the 29 gal tank with them, and they killed off 2, before I finally removed the last. (This concluded by noticeable bodily injury.) So, it appears that fast moving fish may get the eggs, but slow moving fish just get killed. What do experienced breeders do? Sylvia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!