Re: Frozen food formulas

["Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU>]

hi,
the mix i prepare for my fish contains green peas or green beans, spinach
(veges are fresh that i boil, not from cans) , spirulina, vitaminic complex,
shrimp (fresh), white fish flesh, chicken and gelatine. I was using in the
past beef instead of chicken and that's right that my discus and dwarf
cichlids seem to grow faster. Nevertheless they were building up a lot of
fat as well which would make them be bigger but whcih is i think harmful
i.e. going around their heart, reproductive organs....
I like to prepare their food myself but at some point i wonder if it is as
good in terms of composition (quality and quantity) as the "specialized"
food that you can buy which is "elaborated" scientifically  and specifically
for each variety. Then we have also the issue of much time has past between
the fabrication of those products and the time when you feed your fish!
Freshness is an issue.
What is sure is that my fish are by far more exited by what i prepare then
by what i buy (exception of live food!)

Any output?


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----- Original Message -----
From: "John N. Alegre" <listhub@libros.andante.mn.org>
To: <richard.moore2@btinternet.com>
Cc: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Frozen food formulas


> Richard,
>
> I have a quick question about home made foods.
>
> I have found some things just inhibit the solidification of gelatin.  I
have a
> mix of baby peas, carrots, spirulina, and vitamins that I use as a base
food
> for my breeding colony of Pickoltia.  I tried adding some freeze dried
krill
> or freeze dried brine shrimp to this and the gelatin stopped gelling.  My
guess
> is that some enzyme in these things is breaking down the gelatin proteins
> before they can gel.
>
> Have you seen this with any of the Wattley's or Konings' prepared
formulas?
>
> All comments welcome.
> john
>
> On 03-Mar-01 richard.moore2@btinternet.com wrote:
> > bb
> >
> > I added Jack Wattleys' to my mix and had both a
> > Herotilapia Multispinosa and Ap. Cacatuoides spawn the
> > same week.  Coincidence maybe, but it certainly didn't
> > do any harm...
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
> >>Does anyone have experience with Ad Konings' shrimp-
> > mix and dwarves?  Or
> >>Jack Wattleys' conditioning formula?  I'm ready to mix
> > up a fresh batch
> >>of food and am wondering if I sould add some
> > ingredients slanted toward
> >>dwarves.  Anything for color like lobster eggs.  Should
> > I lower the
> >>fiber a little and add more crustacean like foods to the
> > mix.
> >>Considering Ad probably developed the mix with
> > Africans (especially
> >>mbuna) in mind.  Also Wattleys' formula has banana
> > added and I've heard
> >>him say garlic is good for discus and other cichlids.
> > Any help is
> >>appreciated.  TIA
> >>bb
> >>
> >>
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