aren't the so called black worms tubifex in reality. but people use a different name so that they can still sell them!? FLI USA Yvan Alleau 712 Kings boulevard 97330 Corvallis, Oregon home # 738-0606 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely ! yalleau@oce.orst.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Grenfell" <rgrenfell@snet.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Re: Black face > I have had good results with both blood worms and blackworms, should i > be worried? I finally got some L. dorsigerus after a LOOOOOONg hunt so I > don't want to do anything dumb..... I wouldn't get within 10 feet of > tubifex! > > Rich > > Max Gallade wrote: > > > > Whatever is on sale,hehe.Just kidding.Let me see,here's a list of what I > > currently feed: > > BBS live and decapsulated > > BS frozen with Omega 3 oil,Spirulina added > > BS live(my Discus love the hunt) > > Daphnia frozen > > Red wiggler worms (live) > > Krill frozen for red color > > Mysis shrimp frozen > > White worms frozen > > Wattleys health Discus community food for red color also(my apisto love the > > stuff.I got good color and growth feeding it combined with krill)I hope ol > > Jack sends me some free Discus for promoting his food line here again :). > > Cichlid chow > > Tetra color bits > > Spirulina flakes > > I don't feed Beefheart to my Discus it fouls the water to quickly in a > > planted tank.I mentioned here before that I'm highly allergic towards > > Blackworms,Bloodworms and tubifex.I just read again last night about the bad > > effects of Bloodworms on fishes digestive track.Trust me I lost a lot of > > rare fish due to over indulging on the darn worms.Looking at my fishfood > > bill I 'll probably start mixing my own fish food soon. > > Oh yeah anybody out there wanna buy a can of cyclop eeze,I pay shipping. > > Max > > http://clix.to/Apisto > > >From: "Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU> > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > >Subject: Re: Black face > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:26:57 -0800 > > > > > >ok Max, so what are you feeding your fish with ? > > > FLI USA > > > > > >Yvan Alleau > > >712 Kings boulevard > > >97330 Corvallis, Oregon > > >home # 738-0606 > > >College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences > > >Oregon State University > > >office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely ! > > >yalleau@oce.orst.edu > > > > > >"When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com> > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:23 PM > > >Subject: Re: Black face > > > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > My A.sp.Rio Marmore didn't die right away he lived on another 1/2 year > > >after > > > > his stroke. > > > > His normal coloration even came back.I think my fish died of a > > >intestinal > > > > problem due to bloodworm feeding.I totally avoid bloodworms > > > > in all my fishes diet nowadays.I'm sorry that my first post was > > >misleading.I > > > > made it sound like he died of his stroke condition. > > > > HTH > > > > Max > > > > http://clix.to/Apisto > > > > > > > > >From: "Thomas Wilkinson" <ttwilki@mindspring.com> > > > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > > > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > > > >Subject: Re: Black face > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:18:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > > >Eric > > > > >I have seen this condition in a number of apistos over the years. > > >Because > > > > >of > > > > >the exact distribution of the black discoloration, I agree that it must > > > > >have > > > > >a neurologic basis. If I remember correctly, males seem much more > > >prone > > >to > > > > >this. Bad news is every fish that gets this soon dies. > > > > >Tom W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > >Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > >Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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