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Re: Black face



aren't the so called black worms tubifex in reality. but people use a
different name so that they can still sell them!?
                        FLI USA

Yvan Alleau
712 Kings boulevard
97330 Corvallis, Oregon
home # 738-0606
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely !
yalleau@oce.orst.edu

"When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Grenfell" <rgrenfell@snet.net>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Black face


> I have had good results with both blood worms and blackworms, should i
> be worried? I finally got some L. dorsigerus after a LOOOOOONg hunt so I
> don't want to do anything dumb..... I wouldn't get within 10 feet of
> tubifex!
>
> Rich
>
> Max Gallade wrote:
> >
> > Whatever is on sale,hehe.Just kidding.Let me see,here's a list of what I
> > currently feed:
> > BBS live and decapsulated
> > BS frozen with Omega 3 oil,Spirulina added
> > BS live(my Discus love the hunt)
> > Daphnia frozen
> > Red wiggler worms (live)
> > Krill frozen for red color
> > Mysis shrimp frozen
> > White worms frozen
> > Wattleys health Discus community food for red color also(my apisto love
the
> > stuff.I got good color and growth feeding it combined with krill)I hope
ol
> > Jack sends me some free Discus for promoting his food line here again
:).
> > Cichlid chow
> > Tetra color bits
> > Spirulina flakes
> > I don't feed Beefheart to my Discus it fouls the water to quickly in a
> > planted tank.I mentioned here before that I'm highly allergic towards
> > Blackworms,Bloodworms and tubifex.I just read again last night about the
bad
> > effects of Bloodworms on fishes digestive track.Trust me I lost a lot of
> > rare fish due to over indulging on the darn worms.Looking at my fishfood
> > bill I 'll probably start mixing my own fish food soon.
> > Oh yeah anybody out there wanna buy a can of cyclop eeze,I pay shipping.
> > Max
> > http://clix.to/Apisto
> > >From: "Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU>
> > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> > >To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Black face
> > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:26:57 -0800
> > >
> > >ok Max, so what are you feeding your fish with ?
> > >                         FLI USA
> > >
> > >Yvan Alleau
> > >712 Kings boulevard
> > >97330 Corvallis, Oregon
> > >home # 738-0606
> > >College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> > >Oregon State University
> > >office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely !
> > >yalleau@oce.orst.edu
> > >
> > >"When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the
essential"
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:23 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Black face
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > > My A.sp.Rio Marmore didn't die right away he lived on another 1/2
year
> > >after
> > > > his stroke.
> > > > His normal coloration even came back.I think my fish died of a
> > >intestinal
> > > > problem due to bloodworm feeding.I totally avoid bloodworms
> > > > in all my fishes diet nowadays.I'm sorry that my first post was
> > >misleading.I
> > > > made it sound like he died of his stroke condition.
> > > > HTH
> > > > Max
> > > > http://clix.to/Apisto
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Thomas Wilkinson" <ttwilki@mindspring.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> > > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Black face
> > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:18:57 -0800
> > > > >
> > > > >Eric
> > > > >I have seen this condition in a number of apistos over the years.
> > >Because
> > > > >of
> > > > >the exact distribution of the black discoloration, I agree that it
must
> > > > >have
> > > > >a neurologic  basis. If I remember correctly, males seem much more
> > >prone
> > >to
> > > > >this. Bad news is every fish that gets this soon dies.
> > > > >Tom W.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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