Rich, Did you ever lose a fish that looked bloated and just wasted away? If your answer is yes,you should be worry about Bloodworms.I read the aticle about the bad effects of bloodworms on young Discus in the latest TFH issue-Wattleys( here's that name again,I'm not related or affiliated to him)Discus Corner last night.Again I've seen the same thing that Jack mentioned many times until I found out it was the darn Bloodworms. Nothing wrong with clean Blackworms.I'm just very allergic towards them. Got to go Max >From: Rich Grenfell <rgrenfell@snet.net> >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com >To: apisto@listbox.com >Subject: Re: Black face >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:57:36 -0500 > >I have had good results with both blood worms and blackworms, should i >be worried? I finally got some L. dorsigerus after a LOOOOOONg hunt so I >don't want to do anything dumb..... I wouldn't get within 10 feet of >tubifex! > >Rich > >Max Gallade wrote: > > > > Whatever is on sale,hehe.Just kidding.Let me see,here's a list of what I > > currently feed: > > BBS live and decapsulated > > BS frozen with Omega 3 oil,Spirulina added > > BS live(my Discus love the hunt) > > Daphnia frozen > > Red wiggler worms (live) > > Krill frozen for red color > > Mysis shrimp frozen > > White worms frozen > > Wattleys health Discus community food for red color also(my apisto love >the > > stuff.I got good color and growth feeding it combined with krill)I hope >ol > > Jack sends me some free Discus for promoting his food line here again >:). > > Cichlid chow > > Tetra color bits > > Spirulina flakes > > I don't feed Beefheart to my Discus it fouls the water to quickly in a > > planted tank.I mentioned here before that I'm highly allergic towards > > Blackworms,Bloodworms and tubifex.I just read again last night about the >bad > > effects of Bloodworms on fishes digestive track.Trust me I lost a lot of > > rare fish due to over indulging on the darn worms.Looking at my fishfood > > bill I 'll probably start mixing my own fish food soon. > > Oh yeah anybody out there wanna buy a can of cyclop eeze,I pay shipping. > > Max > > http://clix.to/Apisto > > >From: "Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU> > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > >Subject: Re: Black face > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:26:57 -0800 > > > > > >ok Max, so what are you feeding your fish with ? > > > FLI USA > > > > > >Yvan Alleau > > >712 Kings boulevard > > >97330 Corvallis, Oregon > > >home # 738-0606 > > >College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences > > >Oregon State University > > >office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely ! > > >yalleau@oce.orst.edu > > > > > >"When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the >essential" > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com> > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:23 PM > > >Subject: Re: Black face > > > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > My A.sp.Rio Marmore didn't die right away he lived on another 1/2 >year > > >after > > > > his stroke. > > > > His normal coloration even came back.I think my fish died of a > > >intestinal > > > > problem due to bloodworm feeding.I totally avoid bloodworms > > > > in all my fishes diet nowadays.I'm sorry that my first post was > > >misleading.I > > > > made it sound like he died of his stroke condition. > > > > HTH > > > > Max > > > > http://clix.to/Apisto > > > > > > > > >From: "Thomas Wilkinson" <ttwilki@mindspring.com> > > > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > > > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > > > >Subject: Re: Black face > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:18:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > > >Eric > > > > >I have seen this condition in a number of apistos over the years. > > >Because > > > > >of > > > > >the exact distribution of the black discoloration, I agree that it >must > > > > >have > > > > >a neurologic basis. If I remember correctly, males seem much more > > >prone > > >to > > > > >this. Bad news is every fish that gets this soon dies. > > > > >Tom W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > >Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List >Archives"! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List >Archives"! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > >Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >email apisto-request@listbox.com. >Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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