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Re: Black face

To: apisto@listbox.com
Subject: Re: Black face
From: Rich Grenfell <rgrenfell@snet.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:23:53 -0500
References: <F237bLYluLCTaogxLDp0000f038@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
Nope that never happened to me... 

Max Gallade wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> Did you ever lose a fish that looked bloated and just wasted away?
> If your answer is yes,you should be worry about Bloodworms.I read the aticle
> about the bad effects of bloodworms on young Discus in the latest TFH
> issue-Wattleys( here's that name again,I'm not related or affiliated to
> him)Discus Corner last night.Again I've seen the same thing that Jack
> mentioned many times until I found out it was the darn Bloodworms.
> Nothing wrong with clean Blackworms.I'm just very allergic towards them.
> Got to go
> Max
> 
> >From: Rich Grenfell <rgrenfell@snet.net>
> >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> >To: apisto@listbox.com
> >Subject: Re: Black face
> >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:57:36 -0500
> >
> >I have had good results with both blood worms and blackworms, should i
> >be worried? I finally got some L. dorsigerus after a LOOOOOONg hunt so I
> >don't want to do anything dumb..... I wouldn't get within 10 feet of
> >tubifex!
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >Max Gallade wrote:
> > >
> > > Whatever is on sale,hehe.Just kidding.Let me see,here's a list of what I
> > > currently feed:
> > > BBS live and decapsulated
> > > BS frozen with Omega 3 oil,Spirulina added
> > > BS live(my Discus love the hunt)
> > > Daphnia frozen
> > > Red wiggler worms (live)
> > > Krill frozen for red color
> > > Mysis shrimp frozen
> > > White worms frozen
> > > Wattleys health Discus community food for red color also(my apisto love
> >the
> > > stuff.I got good color and growth feeding it combined with krill)I hope
> >ol
> > > Jack sends me some free Discus for promoting his food line here again
> >:).
> > > Cichlid chow
> > > Tetra color bits
> > > Spirulina flakes
> > > I don't feed Beefheart to my Discus it fouls the water to quickly in a
> > > planted tank.I mentioned here before that I'm highly allergic towards
> > > Blackworms,Bloodworms and tubifex.I just read again last night about the
> >bad
> > > effects of Bloodworms on fishes digestive track.Trust me I lost a lot of
> > > rare fish due to over indulging on the darn worms.Looking at my fishfood
> > > bill I 'll probably start mixing my own fish food soon.
> > > Oh yeah anybody out there wanna buy a can of cyclop eeze,I pay shipping.
> > > Max
> > > http://clix.to/Apisto
> > > >From: "Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU>
> > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Black face
> > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:26:57 -0800
> > > >
> > > >ok Max, so what are you feeding your fish with ?
> > > >                         FLI USA
> > > >
> > > >Yvan Alleau
> > > >712 Kings boulevard
> > > >97330 Corvallis, Oregon
> > > >home # 738-0606
> > > >College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> > > >Oregon State University
> > > >office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely !
> > > >yalleau@oce.orst.edu
> > > >
> > > >"When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the
> >essential"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:23 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Black face
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > > My A.sp.Rio Marmore didn't die right away he lived on another 1/2
> >year
> > > >after
> > > > > his stroke.
> > > > > His normal coloration even came back.I think my fish died of a
> > > >intestinal
> > > > > problem due to bloodworm feeding.I totally avoid bloodworms
> > > > > in all my fishes diet nowadays.I'm sorry that my first post was
> > > >misleading.I
> > > > > made it sound like he died of his stroke condition.
> > > > > HTH
> > > > > Max
> > > > > http://clix.to/Apisto
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Thomas Wilkinson" <ttwilki@mindspring.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> > > > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Black face
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:18:57 -0800
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Eric
> > > > > >I have seen this condition in a number of apistos over the years.
> > > >Because
> > > > > >of
> > > > > >the exact distribution of the black discoloration, I agree that it
> >must
> > > > > >have
> > > > > >a neurologic  basis. If I remember correctly, males seem much more
> > > >prone
> > > >to
> > > > > >this. Bad news is every fish that gets this soon dies.
> > > > > >Tom W.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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