Alan, >From the short description, it sounds like you might have young specimens of the domestic A. cacatuoides (Orange). It's a very pretty fish. I would have to have a better description or photos to make a better guess. Mike Wise NaturalDTP@aol.com wrote: > Another name for you Mike... > > Here in the UK I bought a young trio of wild caught fish as Ap. sp. 'Orange'. > They are certainly nijsenni/cacutoides group fish. I'm guessing at > atahualpa, even though they are more yellow and the blue is paler and not as > extensive as the atahualpa on the Krib website. > > male: bodycolour is metallic 'old gold' with a blue sheen on the lower half > of the body from the caudal fin forward to mid-way. There is a checker > pattern of darker scales in the blue near the caudal fin. Nomally there is > only a hint of any dark markings, although under stress it gets markings > typical of cacutoides - a cheek stripe, a wide even body stripe with the > addition of large spot at the base of the caudal fin. The caudal fin is > rounded (like nijsenni) and unmarked. The dorsal fin is not especially sail > like but the first 5 rays are extended. These are young fish and the lappets > are already longer than 'norberti' so the potential is for cacutoides length > lappets. > > female: the dominant female has a bright plain yellow bodycolour, with no > bodyspots other than 7-8 dark spots on the margin between the dorsal fin and > the body. She has a black cheek stripe and black ventrals. She has a large > black spot on the caudal peduncle. The subdominant female has more subtle > colouring with a light brown bodystripe. > > They are fairly intolerant of other dwarf cichlids in their tank (a very > heavily planted 50 USgallon) with cardinals, Ap. trifaciata, Ap. hongsloi I, > wild Rams. > > Can anyone confirm this is atahualpa, or suggest an alternative. > > Alan W > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!