Fellow Badis lovers, Forgive me, but there's been a mistake. It is my understanding that the Badis sp. "Scarlet" is a unique dwarf species. I have spawned the Badis badis. This little beauty doesn't seem to follow the same rules. Does anyone have experience with THIS fish? Kevin Korotev Milwaukee, WI USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David A. Youngker" <nestor10@mindspring.com> To: "Apistogramma Mailing List" <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Badis sp. "Scarlet" > From: Ken Roese > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:22 PM > > > P.S. The badis is classified as a perch. According to > > what I've read, it used to be considered a cichlid but > > was given it's own family (Badidae) in the Perciformes > > order. > > They're known as "Indian Blue Perch", coming from the Surinam. (Now, I > guess, the "Indian Scarlet Perch" in this form ;-) ) > > At first, I thought I'd stumbled across an Apistogramma I hadn't seen > before. Drove the List nuts trying to ID it as the shop didn't have a clue. > In fact, the original page I used while trying to ID it is still up at > http://www.mindspring.com/~nestor10/apisto_or_no.htm . A young enthusiast > from Europe actually IDed it from that picture - almost as quickly as he'd > seen it. > > If I remember correctly, it also points out the differences in the sexes. > > Maintenance temp of 74- 79F, 23- 26C, and a breeding temp of 78- 86F, 26- > 30C. I kept them in the 78- 80F range myself. > > Medium hard water, 140- 220 ppm (mine was 140), pH close to neutral (mine > was 7.4), slow- medium circulation (I used a Penguin 110 on a 20-gal long). > > The ones I had preferred live foods and were a bear to break into freeze- > dried. They never really became enthusiastic about flakes. The fry seem to > refuse anything that isn't moving under its own power. Freshly- hatched > Artemia work just fine, and adults will take mature Artemia dead or alive. > > They need a lot of cover, being a fairly shy fish. Given a lot of places to > hide, they become much more active and willing to stay in the open. Dither > fish don't seem to make a real difference except at feeding time. Given a > little competition, the Badis eat really well. > > A couple needs about two feet of tank floor to interact well. There should > be some caves about the bottom also. They are definite cave- spawners with a > twist. Like Anabantids, the male guards the nest until the fry have absorbed > the yolk sacs and are easily free- swimming. Then they are simply ignored - > by both parents. Neither seem cannibalistic. > > The male will guard the nesting site with some vigor, rivaling the behavior > of a true cichlid. It is for this reason the female should have a ready > escape site - once the brood is set, the male doesn't care for any more > company until he is free of this batch and ready for another. Other fish may > have a hard time getting near the site any time after the male has staked it > out. Defensive attacks consist mainly of quick, intense rushes toward the > offender without any real nipping. Another male may trigger a bout of > "shadow boxing", with the two flaring and jockeying for position then > perhaps a little "face sucking" among friends. It may look innocent, but the > lip- locks can get pretty serious. > > Don't make the mistake of placing any shrimp you'd like to keep, or much > smaller fish, in the same tank. They will waste little time in literally > blinding the target, then ripping it to shreds for devouring it. Given a > large enough group, it's almost like a pack of wolves on the hunt. One will > make the disabling thrust, then suddenly everyone has bloodlust. Given what > I'd seen of them until that point, imagine my surprise when half a dozen > Bumblebee shrimp (at $4 US each) were all in pieces within fifteen minutes. > Well, I thought they'd be all right, as they were 3/4 the length of the > Badis. > > I saw them do the same thing to a couple of their own "teenaged" males who > thought they'd wrest a cave from an old- timer. And again, once the > disabling blow was thrown, everyone took a sudden interest in the shredding > process... > > -Y- > > David A. Youngker > nestor10@mindspring.com > > PS of my own - > > I _did_ let Nature take its course, and finally had to get rid of the little > "fry factories". I believe David Sanchez still has a pond or two full of my > original stock... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!