I've seen this tank too. I don't remember seeing the Apistos in with the piranhas... last I recall seeing a severum-looking thing (back then I wasn't so good at fish ID lol). What I did notice is that one piranha has only one eye... My favorite tank there is the central-american cichlid tank with the alligator gars just "next door" to the piranha tank. There's usually a few pairs with fry in there... (I know, they're not Apistogramma, but they're cichlids, and to me cichlids are cichlids and I love them all :-)). That tank is fun to watch. I don't go to Steinhart a lot any more, so I don't know much about their tanks... but I go to the SFAS (San Francisco Aquarium Society) there (almost) every month... William P.S. The "Mud Bank" tank down the hall (with the giant shark catfish, redtail catfish, and "real" gouramis) has some tiny convict cichlids on the bottom. You have to look closely to see them! Please visit our website at homestead.juno.com/jgarden2000/aquaria.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!