Neither is telling lies, you're just misinterpreting the result! GH and KH are "true" measures of water hardness, i.e. the content of disolved MINERALS in the water, the TDS meter measures all disolved substances in your wate, including non mineral elements, that can mean, for example, the various forms of oxidised iron, various acidic components etc. which is why you're getting what appear to be conflicting results. Note that as you get closer, and into, your substrate you should find that there are some widely varying results. I would think that your measurements are pretty well fine, maybe still a 'bit' hard, but certainly nothing to worry about and I wouldn't expect your fish to have probs, it's just that Amazonian water can have 0 hardness, something which can be difficult to reach and maintain safely in an aquarium. This is my understanding of the differences between TDS and hardness, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, I hate to diseminate false info. C:-)lin ----- Mensaje Original ----- De: "Al Smith" <alsmith1@mindspring.com> Fecha: Miercoles, Abril 25, 2001 1:22 am Asunto: Re: profile as substrate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J Miller" <ruddigar_99@yahoo.com> > To: "Apisto List" <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:25 AM > Subject: Re: profile as substrate > > > > Al, > > > > One of my best planted tanks is a thirty five gallon tank that has > > been set up for about five years. The substrate is nothing but > silica> gravel, about 3mm. The plants grow well with good light > (about 80W > > flourescent), and CO2, with a weekly addition of liquid > fertilzer and > > the odd Jobes plant spike. > > > > HTH > > > > J > > > > > > The aquatic planting soil is suppose to be the same stuff as > the soil > > > conditioner..the soil conditioner on the Shcultz page says it is > > > inert > > > also..also I just used a condutivity meter not a reagent kit...the > > > stuff > > > looks nice in the tank....but changing the water chemistry is not > > > good.....just looking for something simple to grow some of the > easy> > plants....looking for ideas from others who grow plants in > soft water > > > and do > > > not go the super substrate method..if there is such a way... > > > > > > AL > > Hello Again: > I just checked my water with 2 reagent kits 1, hagen 2, > aquariumpharm. > > hagen gh=3 gd/h > kh = 2.8 degrees hardness > > A. P. gh= 5 degrees > kh= 4 degrees > this kit has no refrence color as to where you > stop..it just > says when green...well is it lime green olive green or the first > shade that > resembles green... > > now my conductivity meter reads 350 ppm....or microsiems.... > do the reagent kits fall in line as in the reading from the meter...? > reason being as I want to make a 75 gallon amazon biotope > setup...plants,apistos,tetras,barbatus cories,zebra plecos and > other misc. amazon fish...My > problem is if the profile will alter my water....the readings > above are from > a tank with profile in it...plants growing like a jungle...Now is > the TDs > and conductivity meter reading my hardness or just any additives > in the > water... > I do not want to use a sharp substrate like laterite as it raises > hell on > the barbatus barbs as they burrow in the substrate ..All in a > nutshell my > meters read hard water my kits read softer water...WHY... > > AL > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! ___________________________________________________________________ Consigue tu e-mail gratuito TERRA.ES Haz clic en http://www.terra.es/correo/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!