just to add to Sal's opinion, i have a question: why are thoses apistos females so similar, at least to me? Also most of the males are quiet different, female often have same shape /color. I'm sometime confused when looking at them in my tanks. Hopefully they know who is what but still hybridation happens i guess because of those similarities. take care FLI USA Yvan Alleau 712 Kings boulevard 97330 Corvallis, Oregon home # 738-0606 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely ! yalleau@oce.orst.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" ----- Original Message ----- From: "salS" <chas33@optonline.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Too many Apistos! > Aren't you afraid of hybridization? I know that I (except for a few > species) have a tough time telling the females apart. Even though I agree > with you that it's very satisfying watching the different species interact > with each other, I constantly fight the urge to do so because I don't want > any interbreeding. > Good luck > sal > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fredrik Ljungberg <Fredrik.Ljungberg@saab.se> > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:00 AM > Subject: Re: Too many Apistos! > > > > Like you say, A. gephyra and A. pertensis are often imported > > together, along with A. gibbiceps. I've had all three in a > > 250-litre tank (125x45 cm surface) or 66 gal (49x18 in) for > > you non-metric guys. I had 2 pairs/1 "trio" with no problems > > at all. A 30g should be enough for A. gephyra/A. pertensis > > as I don't consider either of them to be very aggressive > > and/or claiming very large territories (sp?). Part of the > > fun is actually keeping different species together and > > watching them "interact", fighting for space and tending > > their fry. > > > > Good luck > > Fredrik L. > > > > > > Bob Raible wrote: > > > > > > I overdid it at the PCCA Auction last weekend. A fellow Apisto fancier > > > was moving to the other coast and auctioned off his stock. I am now the > > > proud owner of: > > > A. sp. panduro > > > A. cacatuoides > > > A. nijsseni > > > A. gephyra > > > A. hippolytae > > > A. pertensis > > > > > > I am short at least one tank and was wondering if it is possible to > > > keep any of these pairs together in the same tank (largest available > > > footprint is a 30g long). Are any of these fish likely to be more > > > forgiving of the others species than they are of their conspecifics? I > > > noticed that gephyra and pertensis are found together in nature. Would > > > that mean that they are more likely keep the peace? TIA. > > > > > > PS: I am in awe of the A. panduro's colors - I had no idea! > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. > > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > -- > > Fredrik.Ljungberg@saab.se > > Flutter and Loads Department, Saab Ab > > voice +46 13 18 54 60, fax +46 13 18 33 63 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!