Greg There is a big difference in N Anomala and Apistos Steindachneri. I have both and females of Nanacara have a checker board pattern to them, Steindachneri females have that big dot in the middle of body, Nanacara Males dont get a lyre tail, where as Steindachneri males do, coloration in both species is way different too. Male Nanacaras have a greenish hue to them, with gold colored eyes, even as juveniles they are easy enough to tell apart. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.