Hi Ken I have kept T. brichardi a number of times over the years, the last time I managed to get a few babies. I bought 8, 4 pairs and placed 2 pairs in a soft water acid 40 long tank and 2 pairs in a tap water (pH 7.4, DH 10) 55. The pairs in the 40 died within 2 days. The pairs in the 55 which had a few PVC tubes and a few flower pots and was filtered by an old Whisper filter and undergravel filter. One pair survived. The store where I bought them had 2 females left so I bought these and added them to the 55. The female killed them. The pair seemed to get along fairly well and were very visible. The tank was at the door of my fishroom. They would both greet me when I walked in. They never bothered any other fish in the tank, even Corys. One day I saw 2 tails sticking out of one small PVC tube. I realized they were upside down and thought they were spawning. The male stuck out at both ends. I pulled the tube when they finished and saw 16 large eggs stuck on the roof of the tube. I managed to raise 4 which turned out to be 2 pairs which I gave away. The pair spawned a few more times and I left them alone and never got another fry. I fed them as I do all my fish, flakes and frozen brine with weekly live brine. I think I lucked out in getting a compatible pair since this was the first time I was able to keep both sexes in the same tank. I had been able to keep 2 males or 2 females together but if both sexes were there, I ended up with one. Good Luck & I'd like some babies. Tom Wojtech ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.