John sounds like it is most likely your not giving them the food of the proper size. Just try giving them an infusoria culture. Its a good old fashion trick that works! Just add some old aquaruim water to a one gallon jar along with a couple of grains of rice, or banana or many other things for that matter. Read the archives for many of the other common choices for newly hatched rams. APR, infusoria, microworms, and greenwater will all work. Dave --- John McCrone <j.mccrone@btinternet.com> wrote: > Several list members suggested that parents might > have eaten fry. That was > my suspicion the first time and so this time I put a > dozen or so in a > breeding trap, leaving the rest with the parents. > All had gone the next > morning. So either the babies somehow got out of the > trap (which has no > holes I can find) or something else killed them. > > I ruled out any drastic water condition changes as > it seemed odd that twice > in a row I had a cloud of healthy fry that all go at > about the same stage of > development. Starvation seems the most likely bet. > This is what I will focus > on the next time round. > > Has anyone tried mushing up daphnia to feed fry? > Will they pick freshly dead > stuff out of the water column? Or even mushed up > flake food? > > David Sanchez asked about water conditions. I've run > out of GH test, but it > should be about 2. KH is unreadable. I don't have > conductivity meters and > other stuff. I would say that the water conditions > ought to be better than > for any other fish I've kept as I done more changes > than were necessary to > breed other apistos like aggazzi, mcmasteri, and > keyholes. It could still be > the water of course. > > Cheers > ------------------------------------------------------------ > from John McCrone > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.