Hello Simon You picture makes me even more sure the fish is a female. Secondly... I have never heard of Hongsloi changing sexes.... only in crenicara punctulata thirdly.... i do best breeding my hongsloi as pairs. females will get very aggressive towards other non dominant females. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.