RE: Determining CO2 Concentrations in Natural Waters and condescension

[David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com>]

Wise words Colin. For the record David Y. I happen to
lkike you and think you a very wise aquarist. We have
spoken on the phone before and you seem to be a very
nice person. If I ofeded you in anyway I am sorry that
was not my intention. I hope we can continue to be
"fish" friends and not cause the list any trouble. No
hard feeling on my part. ANd I just got over a lousy
flu myself so I fo hope you feel better. You feel very
strongly about your view as do I. It's ok if we do not
agree.

Dave Sanchez




--- Colin Gorton <mr_apisto@graffiti.net> wrote:
> Erm, can I break in here. I think that the original
> reference to condescension was an unwise choice of
> wording. Both sides to this arguement clearly have
> strong views and are willing to take offence.
> PLEASE, we don't need another flame war. Before
> flying off the handle at an unfortunate word, think
> twice about whether you WANT to feel offended. If
> so, write to the person off-list and tell him or her
> how you feel. I understood that Dave was trying to
> simplify things, maybe he succeeded, maybe not, but
> I don't think he was trying to talk down to anybody.
> There are some people here who are chemically
> impaired, although I went to university and studied
> chemistry in order to get there, since I was 18 I
> haven't studied any and both the "complex" AND the
> "simplified" forms are valid and useful to me.
> I know from personal experience how easy it is to
> misunderstand what may be written on these lists,
> but also I know how infrequently people actually
> want to cause offence, (almost?) everybody here is
> here for one or two principal reasons: to help and
> learn. Please can we get back to that?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com>
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:45:42 -0800 (PST)
> To: apisto@listbox.com
> Subject: RE: Determining CO2 Concentrations in
> Natural Waters
> 
> 
> Re: "But be forewarned - my reading includes people
> like
> Re: Arrhenius, 
> Re: Bronsted,
> Re: Lewis, Dalton, Henry, LeChatlier, Boyle, Charles
> and
> Re: their ilk. And my
> Re: practical experience is approaching the fourth
> Re: decade...
> Re: 
> Re: "Get some of your "college buds" to explain
> things to
> Re: > you - especially the
> Re: > big words."
> Re: 
> Re: And your saying I was being condescending?
> Re: 
> Re: Very Funny. My point was I think it would be
> nice if
> Re: you stayed on our topic and explained it. All I
> saw
> Re: was your explanation of pH. This we can read in
> a
> Re: book. Our discussion was about the need or lack
> there
> Re: of a CO2 injection system. Using allot of words
> to
> Re: talk about pH was not in my opinion on topic of
> the
> Re: need for a CO2 system. You simply went on and on
> about
> Re: pH. I can read that in my Chemistry book. Tell
> me why
> Re: and how you have applied it. That I did in my
> post.
> Re: > 
> Re: \
> Re: I am particularly unimpressed by your lack of
> Re: > participation in this
> Re: > discussion."
> Re: 
> Re: Actaully David I am very unimpressed by your
> Re: understanding of the subject we are talking
> about, You
> Re: indeed know your pH terminology and everything
> you
> Re: read in your books but in my opinion you have
> failed
> Re: to apply it and more importantly explain your
> argument
> Re: regarding the need or or the lack of need for a
> CO2
> Re: system.  Anyway in truth I dont care about this
> topic
> Re: and I am very bored with it. I have too many fry
> to
> Re: feed,too many water changes to do, too many fish
> to
> Re: breed, and too many fish I want and that I need
> to
> Re: work on aquiring. I am up this late because I
> have
> Re: been working on my fishroom and I am ready to
> hit the
> Re: sack. To me it dont mean squat if you aint
> breeding,
> Re: growing plants etc. My fishroom is overflowing
> with
> Re: fry, and my planted tanks are overflowing with
> plants.
> Re: Not to say that you are not just saying my
> methods
> Re: work and are tried and true.
> Re: 
> Re: Dave Sanchez
> Re: 
> Re: 
> Re: 
> Re: 
> Re: 
> Re: --- "David A. Youngker"
> <nestor10@mindspring.com>
> Re: wrote:
> Re: > > From: David Sanchez
> Re: > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:43 AM
> Re: > 
> Re: > > Perhaps I shall explain this relationship in
> Re: > !'plain !'
> Re: > > English so the rest of the group can
> understand. I
> Re: > > think for the purposes of this audience we
> should
> Re: > > proceed in a more practical matter...
> Re: > 
> Re: > Fine - talk down to the group I credited with
> some
> Re: > intelligence. Perhaps
> Re: > they'll enjoy this condescending attitude.
> Re: > 
> Re: > So much for an "academic" discussion...
> Re: > 
> Re: > > It seems you have used allot of big words
> david
> Re: > > but you have failed to explain anything in
> any
> Re: > > practical sense...
> Re: > 
> Re: > Get some of your "college buds" to explain
> things to
> Re: > you - especially the
> Re: > big words.
> Re: > 
> Re: > And here's some other multi-syllable words for
> you
> Re: > to work on in parting:
> Re: > 
> Re: > "I am particularly unimpressed by your lack of
> Re: > participation in this
> Re: > discussion."
> Re: > 
> Re: > And with that, I believe I'll just return to
> my sick
> Re: > bed. I think the
> Re: > fever's got me hallucinating now, as I thought
> I
> Re: > could be of some
> Re: > assistance...
> Re: > 
> Re: > -Y-
> Re: > 
> Re: > David A. Youngker
> Re: > nestor10@mindspring.com
> Re: > 
> Re: > 
> Re: >
> Re:
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