Re: No Sweat!! (was: hmmmm)

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net>]

I think Mike has adequately explained the major parts of the problem. The other
part is flame wars over proper identification of fish offered for sale. In many
species of apistos 2 or more 'forms' come in under the same name. We had problems
in the past where one aquarist sold a fish called Apisto sp. X, but the buyer
received a fish he didn't think was X. Then flaming begins over "bait & switch"
practices. The problem with this is that both parties are usually justified, in
part. We can do without these problems on the list. Such problems should be left to
personal emails, but many times are not.

I have no problem with people mentioning that they have had some species spawn &
need to move them. What I don't want is price lists of species for sale. If you
have a web site where you sell fish I have no problem with adding it below your
name when replying to messages on the list, either. But I don't want to see emails
that just promote a price list. Just my 2¢.

Mike Wise

mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

> Please let me exlain folks with NO opinion given here!  I am not giving my
> opinion......I am not mad at anyone.......I just want to explain about the
> advertising.  I have been on the apisto list since ohhhhhh 96....maybe 95 and
> there was a "WAR" that trook place concerning so-and-so had this apisto for
> this and so-and so had this apisto for that and so-and so rooked me out of
> $xxxxx and so-and so is better and cheaper that so and so and........well folks
> I think you can now imagine the e-mails that could and were being sent!
>
> Way back then the list moderator stopped the list for 1-2 weeks (sound
> familiar) and came back with some rules........among the rules was no
> advertising on the list.  It was made completly clear that the advertising in
> question did not mean "...I need a male borelli".......or "...... had a spawn
> of XXX and anyone who wants them write me off list."...........it was made
> clear that if you were in the "business" not full time, just in the "business"
> of selling fish then it needs to be off list totally!  Not all lists are that
> way.........the only other list  personally belong to is the Killie list and it
> is exactally the same as the apisto list ith this regards so there are other
> lists that feel the same as our apisto moderator..............please
> folks......I have not given you my opinion.....just what the list agreed to all
> those years ago.  Quite frankly I don't care which way it is.......but if the
> list wants to do so they ought to consider what can and has happened in the
> past and then petition the list moderator!
>
> Mike Wise.....a little guidance on this point......please point out if I am
> incorrect.
>
> No anger here folks and no one in my mind.....and I REALLY don't care which way
> we go!!!!!
>
> You folks have a great day............good to be back with the list up!
>
> Mike
>
>
> > Fellow apistopalians:
> >
> > I say, don't sweat the small stuff!
> >
> > Not to cause a war here, but what on earth is the problem with us on the
> > list letting others know when we have something available?  It would
> ENHA> NCE
>
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