RE: No Sweat!! (was: hmmmm)

["Steve Hatfield or Kim Rogers-Hatfield" <stevekim@indy.net>]

I wouldn?t mind seeing an e-mail to contact someone for a pricelist.
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
[mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Diane Wise
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:02 PM
To: apisto@listbox.com
Subject: Re: No Sweat!! (was: hmmmm)

I think Mike has adequately explained the major parts of the problem.
The other
part is flame wars over proper identification of fish offered for sale.
In many
species of apistos 2 or more 'forms' come in under the same name. We had
problems
in the past where one aquarist sold a fish called Apisto sp. X, but the
buyer
received a fish he didn't think was X. Then flaming begins over "bait &
switch"
practices. The problem with this is that both parties are usually
justified, in
part. We can do without these problems on the list. Such problems should
be left to
personal emails, but many times are not.

I have no problem with people mentioning that they have had some species
spawn &
need to move them. What I don't want is price lists of species for sale.
If you
have a web site where you sell fish I have no problem with adding it
below your
name when replying to messages on the list, either. But I don't want to
see emails
that just promote a price list. Just my 2¢.

Mike Wise

mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

> Please let me exlain folks with NO opinion given here!  I am not
giving my
> opinion......I am not mad at anyone.......I just want to explain about
the
> advertising.  I have been on the apisto list since ohhhhhh 96....maybe
95 and
> there was a "WAR" that trook place concerning so-and-so had this
apisto for
> this and so-and so had this apisto for that and so-and so rooked me
out of
> $xxxxx and so-and so is better and cheaper that so and so
and........well folks
> I think you can now imagine the e-mails that could and were being
sent!
>
> Way back then the list moderator stopped the list for 1-2 weeks (sound
> familiar) and came back with some rules........among the rules was no
> advertising on the list.  It was made completly clear that the
advertising in
> question did not mean "...I need a male borelli".......or "...... had
a spawn
> of XXX and anyone who wants them write me off list."...........it was
made
> clear that if you were in the "business" not full time, just in the
"business"
> of selling fish then it needs to be off list totally!  Not all lists
are that
> way.........the only other list  personally belong to is the Killie
list and it
> is exactally the same as the apisto list ith this regards so there are
other
> lists that feel the same as our apisto moderator..............please
> folks......I have not given you my opinion.....just what the list
agreed to all
> those years ago.  Quite frankly I don't care which way it is.......but
if the
> list wants to do so they ought to consider what can and has happened
in the
> past and then petition the list moderator!
>
> Mike Wise.....a little guidance on this point......please point out if
I am
> incorrect.
>
> No anger here folks and no one in my mind.....and I REALLY don't care
which way
> we go!!!!!
>
> You folks have a great day............good to be back with the list
up!
>
> Mike
>
>
> > Fellow apistopalians:
> >
> > I say, don't sweat the small stuff!
> >
> > Not to cause a war here, but what on earth is the problem with us on
the
> > list letting others know when we have something available?  It would
> ENHA> NCE
>
>
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