Re: No Sweat!! (was: hmmmm)

[salS <chas33@optonline.net>]

I agree with Mike.100%. I think it's beneficial to all to know what we're
breeding and what we have available..negotiation regarding price etc. should
be done OFF-LIST.
Having bred many different varieties I'm always looking for something new
and I would very much like to know what's available out there. Just my 2
cents.
sal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: No Sweat!! (was: hmmmm)


> I think Mike has adequately explained the major parts of the problem. The
other
> part is flame wars over proper identification of fish offered for sale. In
many
> species of apistos 2 or more 'forms' come in under the same name. We had
problems
> in the past where one aquarist sold a fish called Apisto sp. X, but the
buyer
> received a fish he didn't think was X. Then flaming begins over "bait &
switch"
> practices. The problem with this is that both parties are usually
justified, in
> part. We can do without these problems on the list. Such problems should
be left to
> personal emails, but many times are not.
>
> I have no problem with people mentioning that they have had some species
spawn &
> need to move them. What I don't want is price lists of species for sale.
If you
> have a web site where you sell fish I have no problem with adding it below
your
> name when replying to messages on the list, either. But I don't want to
see emails
> that just promote a price list. Just my 2¢.
>
> Mike Wise
>
> mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
>
> > Please let me exlain folks with NO opinion given here!  I am not giving
my
> > opinion......I am not mad at anyone.......I just want to explain about
the
> > advertising.  I have been on the apisto list since ohhhhhh 96....maybe
95 and
> > there was a "WAR" that trook place concerning so-and-so had this apisto
for
> > this and so-and so had this apisto for that and so-and so rooked me out
of
> > $xxxxx and so-and so is better and cheaper that so and so
and........well folks
> > I think you can now imagine the e-mails that could and were being sent!
> >
> > Way back then the list moderator stopped the list for 1-2 weeks (sound
> > familiar) and came back with some rules........among the rules was no
> > advertising on the list.  It was made completly clear that the
advertising in
> > question did not mean "...I need a male borelli".......or "...... had a
spawn
> > of XXX and anyone who wants them write me off list."...........it was
made
> > clear that if you were in the "business" not full time, just in the
"business"
> > of selling fish then it needs to be off list totally!  Not all lists are
that
> > way.........the only other list  personally belong to is the Killie list
and it
> > is exactally the same as the apisto list ith this regards so there are
other
> > lists that feel the same as our apisto moderator..............please
> > folks......I have not given you my opinion.....just what the list agreed
to all
> > those years ago.  Quite frankly I don't care which way it is.......but
if the
> > list wants to do so they ought to consider what can and has happened in
the
> > past and then petition the list moderator!
> >
> > Mike Wise.....a little guidance on this point......please point out if I
am
> > incorrect.
> >
> > No anger here folks and no one in my mind.....and I REALLY don't care
which way
> > we go!!!!!
> >
> > You folks have a great day............good to be back with the list up!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > > Fellow apistopalians:
> > >
> > > I say, don't sweat the small stuff!
> > >
> > > Not to cause a war here, but what on earth is the problem with us on
the
> > > list letting others know when we have something available?  It would
> > ENHA> NCE
> >
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