Colin, I'm not sure what you mean by "black speckled appearance". If you mean color on the flanks, then yes there are some fish that show a more sooty flanks than others (Uwe's black spike form). Many cichlids vary the amount to black pigment showing on them, depending on their mood. The chin patches (see Uwe's atlas p. 79 as "A. juruensis") are also darker and a bit more extensive when breeding, but I never seen a speckled appearance to it. Mike Wise Colin Gorton wrote: > Interesting, do they also have a black speckled appearance, this seems to be much more obvious when they're not in breeding colours. BTW I've now got about 30-40 fry:-). They seem to be very good parents:-). > Thanks to everybody for all the input. > C:-)lin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.