I agree that this is not the place for a full-fledged debate, but I think there are some real misconceptions and misleadings about what is espoused about evolution. For a list of those misconceptions and articles refuting them check here http://www.trueorigin.org/index.asp -Jody ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Baker" <anthony_w_baker@hotmail.com> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Evolution in a microcosm > Jody wrote: > --- > I see Natural Selection and Evolution as two mutually exclusive ideas. Yes, > the strongest may survive, but unless it gives birth to a different > species(which has never been documented or observed) then it has nothing to > do with Evolution. > --- > > This really isn't the place for an Evolution vs. Creationism debate, and I > really wasn't trying to get into one with my initial post -- I was just > trying to share some interesting behaviors with the group and at the same > time get some advice for the next round.... > > _But_ that all being said, "evolution" doesn't mean one species 'all of a > sudden' or spontaneously "gives birth to a different species". That is a > common misconception. Evolution is a pretty slow process, and speciation > occurs _over time_ not in one fell swoop or generation. > If anyone would like more information, I would suggest looking over this > intro to evolutionary biology: > http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html > > -Tony > > > > >From: "Jody" <fishbox@bellsouth.net> > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > >Subject: Re: Evolution in a microcosm > >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:55:47 -0600 > > > >I see Natural Selection and Evolution as two mutually exclusive ideas. > >Yes, > >the strongest may survive, but unless it gives birth to a different species > >(which has never been documented or observed) then it has nothing to do > >with > >Evolution. Rams beget rams : ) > > > >If the parents ate the eggs, which often happens as we all know, it > >wouldn't > >be considered a "strength". In fact, that same beta-female would likely > >eat > >her own eggs, too. Maybe she just likes caviar. In the wild, food is > >scarce for fish, so they have the instinct to eat food whenever and where > >ever they see it. > > > >-Jody > > > > > > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.