Well, it would appear that this subject hasn't died, though I admit that I haven't read all my messages yet. OK Zack, what is your problem with Evolution and what do you think is an alternative, having shot at this theory (which , by the way remains a theory rather than a law because it cannot be mathematically proven) surely you have an alternative? In a previous message, that I erroneously sent just to the person who mailed it rather than the list, I recommended "Almost Like a Whale," I reckon this to be one of, if not the, best book on this subject (proof of evolution). I'd recommend it even to those who believe in alternative theories. I think that the biggest misconception that I saw in the replies on this subject have been that Creationist Theory is the only Alternative to Evolution. I understand that there are other alternatives and would like to know more. Not enough information is available on the alternatives other than Creationist Theory. C:-)lin ----- Original Message ----- From: Zack Wilson <aquamaniac@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:45:03 -0600 To: <apisto@listbox.com> Subject: Re: Evolution in a microcosm Re: I don't know why some feel the need to shy away from this subject. I agree Re: with others who consider this an enjoyable discussion. We're all adults here Re: and should be able to handle some intelligent discussion of a very pivotal Re: idea. The occurrence of macro-evolution or the lack thereof is very Re: prevalent with regards to our Apistos. It affects how we identify or Re: understand the relation of our fish--whether what we have is really a new Re: species in a chain or whether it is just a variation of a pre-existing Re: species. Whether we go into the examination of a fish with the pre-existing Re: notion that we must fit the fish into our evolutionary model affects how we Re: identify our fishes. Re: Re: I find it interesting that it is the proponents of macro-evolution who have Re: felt it necessary to bring in religion. Those of us capable of offering an Re: intelligent discussion about the occurrence of macro-evolution have yet to Re: mention religion. I have only given reasons why I don't accept evolution and Re: haven't stated any affiliation to an alternative religion from evolution. So Re: far the biggest lack of education or intelligence I have seen comes from the Re: other side. I wonder how well anyone understands the alternatives, or do Re: they just believe in their religion of evolution because that is all they Re: have taken the time to study? I have studied evolution in-depth and at Re: length and find no merit in it. Re: Re: Most of what has been offered in favor of macro-evolution has been devoid of Re: substance or evidence in favor, but rather has simply attacked alternative Re: views with simplistic dogma. I don't agree with the ideas of macro-evolution Re: for many well-thought-out reasons and therefor differ in my opinions of what Re: constitutes the identification of a new species. I am happy to discuss with Re: others who can behave like adults the logic of my views. If you're not Re: interested in this subject, there are other threads and you don't have to Re: read this one. If you are interested, whether as a contributor or observer, Re: you're free to participate. Re: Re: Regards all, Re: Re: Zack Wilson Re: losing more and more respect for Ph.D's. Re: Re: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. Re: For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, Re: email apisto-request@listbox.com. Re: -- C:-)lin They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled, and sure enough... _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.