[Mike Wise] I don't know if I have an answer for this. Dead, unfertilized, eggs usually fungus very quickly, even in soft & acid water. In fact in blackwater areas fungi do most of the organic decomposition that normally is done by bacteria in more bacteria-friendly waters. It does appear that your eggs were fertile but something stopped their development. I can think of 2 possible reasons. One is that something in the water or the tank have poisoned the developing larvae. This could be metals, like my zinc example with trout, or some organic compound. The other possibility is that your 'pair' are not the same species. Crossing very different species commonly produces nonviable offspring. Sometimes this occurs as infertile spawns, but can also be seen in arrested fetal development. [John McCrone] The eggs still stuck to the pot have fungused (lightly). So all normal there ;-). Poisoning is an interesting possibility but probably unlikely despite the fact that tank is in my office. I've had viable spawns of a few different species including rams (even though the buggers ate each spawn after a day or two free swimming). Pair would likely be same species because they looked like a batch of siblings bred together. But I'm not expert enough to really know if the female is a viejeta (male is textbook). So I'll let them spawn again and then pull the whole spawn next time just to see if they develop. Thanks for your thoughts on the matter. Cheers ------------------------------------------------------------ from John McCrone ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto