Mike, I can take some more pictures. What is it you would like to see? On the caudal/peduncle spot, it shows as a rather large band around peduncle when defending territory, but is not visible most of the time. Did you notice the the two small horizontal lines in the caudal fin? Kind of like stripes about an 1/8 of an inch long. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto