Dave, A. moae first entered the hobby in 1995 as specimens collected by Elsässer in the Rio Moá. Römer is incorrect when he says that Koslowski's Orange-stripes is A. moae. This fish is more closely related to A. cruzi. The fish you discussed back then in Cichlid News was actually A. sp. Rotpunkt - a very different fish entirely. Mike Wise David Sanchez wrote: > I worked with A.moae back in 1992 and my experiences > with them echo what Zack said and many others. I found > them very easy to breed. I had wild specimens at the > time and I remember they were housed in 20 longs with > flower pots. I had one male to 3 females in these > setups and I was amazed at how fast they adapted and > spawned for me. My male I will never forget he was a > very bright creamy biege color with just black eyes > and fin tips. An outstanding little fellow none of the > other males I had came close to this one. I also > remember them being very prolific and easy to breed. > Good luck > > Dave > > --- Zack Wilson <aquamaniac@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Well, it's nice to see that there's some hope for > > the moae to get passed > > around in the hobby. When I got them and spawned > > them back in, I think '00, > > I had never even heard of them let alone seen them > > before. Apparently they > > haven't warranted much attention. I wasn't terribly > > impressed with them at > > first, but the male finally colored up and actually > > looked pretty nice. Even > > up to now I only knew of a small handful of people > > who had them, all from my > > spawns. I actually regret selling them all off now, > > but maybe I'll get my > > chance at them again. I suppose I could just order a > > box of norberti again > > and see if I get lucky. > > > > They weren't really what I would call a challenge to > > spawn. I pretty much > > put them in a tank, fed them when I thought of it, > > and they did their thing. > > I set them up in a 15 with a few other Apisto spare > > parts. The water was on > > the soft side, probably 3-4dKH, pH 6.5-7 with small > > gravel substrate and > > only one clay flowerpot. Once they hit maturity it > > didn't take long for them > > to spawn. The female was a very diligent parent all > > the way through, and the > > male pretty much stayed out of the way. I only > > spawned them twice before > > selling off the pair. They weren't super productive, > > maybe 20-30 fry from a > > spawn, but enough to start a good new generation. > > Kind of made me wonder why > > they weren't more common in the hobby. > > > > Zack > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > > apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > > or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto