Yes I looked atthem and thats correct what a pretty color form of that fish I had though I would love to find them again, the Rotpunkt that is. As far as A.moae is concerned I have had them as imports also from Germany and I see them regularly on many list still today. What are the key featrres to look for in their ID Mike? Thanks. Dave --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> wrote: > Dave, > > A. moae first entered the hobby in 1995 as specimens > collected by Elsässer in > the Rio Moá. Römer is incorrect when he says that > Koslowski's Orange-stripes is > A. moae. This fish is more closely related to A. > cruzi. > > The fish you discussed back then in Cichlid News was > actually A. sp. Rotpunkt - > a very different fish entirely. > > Mike Wise > > David Sanchez wrote: > > > I worked with A.moae back in 1992 and my > experiences > > with them echo what Zack said and many others. I > found > > them very easy to breed. I had wild specimens at > the > > time and I remember they were housed in 20 longs > with > > flower pots. I had one male to 3 females in these > > setups and I was amazed at how fast they adapted > and > > spawned for me. My male I will never forget he was > a > > very bright creamy biege color with just black > eyes > > and fin tips. An outstanding little fellow none of > the > > other males I had came close to this one. I also > > remember them being very prolific and easy to > breed. > > Good luck > > > > Dave > > > > --- Zack Wilson <aquamaniac@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Well, it's nice to see that there's some hope > for > > > the moae to get passed > > > around in the hobby. When I got them and spawned > > > them back in, I think '00, > > > I had never even heard of them let alone seen > them > > > before. Apparently they > > > haven't warranted much attention. I wasn't > terribly > > > impressed with them at > > > first, but the male finally colored up and > actually > > > looked pretty nice. Even > > > up to now I only knew of a small handful of > people > > > who had them, all from my > > > spawns. I actually regret selling them all off > now, > > > but maybe I'll get my > > > chance at them again. I suppose I could just > order a > > > box of norberti again > > > and see if I get lucky. > > > > > > They weren't really what I would call a > challenge to > > > spawn. I pretty much > > > put them in a tank, fed them when I thought of > it, > > > and they did their thing. > > > I set them up in a 15 with a few other Apisto > spare > > > parts. The water was on > > > the soft side, probably 3-4dKH, pH 6.5-7 with > small > > > gravel substrate and > > > only one clay flowerpot. Once they hit maturity > it > > > didn't take long for them > > > to spawn. The female was a very diligent parent > all > > > the way through, and the > > > male pretty much stayed out of the way. I only > > > spawned them twice before > > > selling off the pair. They weren't super > productive, > > > maybe 20-30 fry from a > > > spawn, but enough to start a good new > generation. > > > Kind of made me wonder why > > > they weren't more common in the hobby. > > > > > > Zack > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > > > apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe > > > or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto