Hello everybody in this great mailing list! I'm working on my first aquarium and your comments to my post would be really helpful for me. I would like to have as much Apistos as possible in my 30 gallon aquarium so I would like to hear more on concept of "High density aquarium" (especially your species recommendations and counts). I'm able to obtain these species and maybe some others too: A. cacatuoides, A. borelii, A. agassizzi, Microgeophagus/Papiliochromis ramirezi (Ram), P. pulcher (Krib). Is it better to have more fish of one specie or pair of each? What about male/female ratios in these high density tanks? Thank you very much for your time! Lean Oric p.s. I didn't get any replies to my original post below ----- Original Message ----- From: Lean Oric To: apisto@listbox.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: High density fish tank Hi fellow aquarists, I've recently bought 130 litre aquarium (45x55cm footprint, 70cm high). Last two weeks I've been searching on the internet for fish I like and find that I really like Apistogramma and Pelvicachromis sp. I saw that everyone seriously interested in breeding uses 10 gallon tanks for single pairs. But breeding is not my main goal (though succesful spawning would be a bonus) I'm mainly interested in keeping attractive fishes so I thought of high density fish set-up to which I found few references in archives. quote: >"I have always kind of thought that those high density wetups work because >there is no opportunity to establish territories in the normal sense. There >just isn't enough space, and there are too many intruders to keep them all out >of your turf." I'd like to hear anybody's experiences with such set-ups. Is it really solution to aggression of dwarf cichlids? I'll appreciate any tips for particular species that would fit into this set-up. I thought about five to ten pairs of really different species- one or two pairs of each. At the end of week I'm going for a visit to my local fish supplier so I would like to hear your comments beforehand. I could also add small school of some dither fish to cover also upper strata with fish, what do you think? I plan to have fine white sand on the bottom and two sides as walls from lava rocks to provide as much caves and slots as possible. I plan lots of plants but haven't decided on particular strains- I would love to hear your input on this. What are right plants into this setup? I count with extra care for additional filtering, cleaning and massive water changes that are associated with high-density aquarium. Thank you very much for help! Lean Oric ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto