> > Forgive me for asking for clarification, but if I read the original > > post correctly the 30 gallon tank in question has a height of 70 cm. > > (28" if my brain is working ) and the poster was asking about housing 5 > > - 10 pairs of apistos therein??? I assume this tank would have about the > > same (or less) floor space as a 15 gallon tank, and as such would house > > a pair or trio well, along with some upper-water dither fishes... The > > capacity of a tank to house bottom-dwelling, territorial fishes (like > > apistos) is determined by the area of the tank floor, not by how many > > gallons of water the tank will hold. > > > > Martha Hello and thanks for comments. This tank is actually pretty high, with footprint only 18"x22". I understand that its really pushing limits for territorial fish like Apistos. That's why I asked more experienced people. I know that fish like this needs 1,5 to 3 square feets territorium, but I thought that there can be exceptions to this rule (Some certain Apisto species or this "high density aquarium" concept). > Here's one for you throw all the formulas out cause they don't mean nuthin. > The first time Uwe Romer came to my place he came to get Juruensis that I > had, he brought elizabethae to trade. I had a bunch of the Jurus in a > growing tank, But I also had the KING APISTO of them all in a 29 gallon, > heavily planted tank in my bedroom.You can see this fish and this tank on > Pages 509,511,and 513 in the Atlas. Uwe wanted offspring of this fish to > take back, so we broke the tank down to get them. When we were done we had > counted 150 Jurus, fry and all! Hello David, seems like you don't agree. Could you please recommend me how many males and females would you put in? Last time I asked for information on The Ram in local pet store I was told that there is no problem with keeping more pairs of them (as opposite to A.agassizzi Double Red). I'm confused- are they indeed as territorial as any other Apistos? Or are there any exceptional species that I should look for? Thank you very much, Lean Oric ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto