Well I do and I don't Lean I should have clarified that this was an exceptional situation and I beleive an exceptional fish ,in a tank that size I would reasonbly expect to get away with a trio IF heavily planted and so forth Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids Uwe Romer & David Soares 14697 S. Bluegrass Ln. Sisters OR, 97759 Phone/541-549-9350 apistodave@bendcable.com www.apistogrammaidiots.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lean Oric" <LeanOric@deusystems.cz> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Beginner needs help > > > Forgive me for asking for clarification, but if I read the original > > > post correctly the 30 gallon tank in question has a height of 70 cm. > > > (28" if my brain is working ) and the poster was asking about housing 5 > > > - 10 pairs of apistos therein??? I assume this tank would have about the > > > same (or less) floor space as a 15 gallon tank, and as such would house > > > a pair or trio well, along with some upper-water dither fishes... The > > > capacity of a tank to house bottom-dwelling, territorial fishes (like > > > apistos) is determined by the area of the tank floor, not by how many > > > gallons of water the tank will hold. > > > > > > Martha > > Hello and thanks for comments. > This tank is actually pretty high, with footprint only 18"x22". I understand > that its really pushing limits for territorial fish like Apistos. That's why > I asked more experienced people. I know that fish like this needs 1,5 to 3 > square feets territorium, but I thought that there can be exceptions to this > rule (Some certain Apisto species or this "high density aquarium" concept). > > > Here's one for you throw all the formulas out cause they don't mean > nuthin. > > The first time Uwe Romer came to my place he came to get Juruensis that I > > had, he brought elizabethae to trade. I had a bunch of the Jurus in a > > growing tank, But I also had the KING APISTO of them all in a 29 gallon, > > heavily planted tank in my bedroom.You can see this fish and this tank on > > Pages 509,511,and 513 in the Atlas. Uwe wanted offspring of this fish to > > take back, so we broke the tank down to get them. When we were done we had > > counted 150 Jurus, fry and all! > > Hello David, > seems like you don't agree. Could you please recommend me how many males and > females would you put in? Last time I asked for information on The Ram in > local pet store I was told that there is no problem with keeping more pairs > of them (as opposite to A.agassizzi Double Red). I'm confused- are they > indeed as territorial as any other Apistos? Or are there any exceptional > species that I should look for? > > Thank you very much, > Lean Oric > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto