Your fish are probably not diseased, but suffering from gill erosion from all the ammonia built up in shipping them in such crowded conditions. Your best bet is to drop the pH to about 6.5, increase the aeration, and hope for the best. Mike Wise the dude wrote: > Hello, > > Well the order of 200 assorted Apistogrammas from a Colombian exporter came > into a local store a few days ago. I went there today to check it out. Of > the 200 around 30 are left. They are all in pretty rough shape. The owner of > the store let me take all of them for free, I am hoping to save a few of > them. They came in all different sizes from 1-5cm. The largest ones are > dying however. When I was collecting the survivors I saw some dead male full > grown A. sp "breitbinden" That was a shame. Im hoping some of hte babies I > have that are two young to tell what they are will be one of those. In the > last few hours since I got them home I put them into 3x15gallon tanks. > (about 10 per tank) Some have died within the last few hours that I got them > home. Infact the nicest female who was large and had black stripes down her > body(not sure what fish this is?) was the healthiest looking fish, but she > died 10minutes ago. > Anyway the ones that are alive are feeding on a dose of brineshrimp I just > fed them. Most of them have the body shape of macmasteri, regani or > cacatuoides type apistos. Most of them either are tan with some black > blotches along the lateral line or they have some black stripes down there > side.... > Anyway Im hoping I get some survivors. He wasnt planning to treat them, so I > did the right thing. I had a few extra tanks, see what I can salvage... > > Any idea about which apistos they are? any suggestions on what do to with > them treatment wise? > The petstore water was 7. So I put them in ph7 and am slowly lowering it. In > the last 4 hours it has gone from 7 to about 6.91 > > When I know which ones are survivors I will go through the Identifying chart > and write down all the features... > > coby > > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > >Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > >Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader