Jerry- did I spell it wrong or are you serious? you hit the nail on the head, regardless. Infusoria, I thought was the crap (mung, filth, etc....the micro organism broth that would be in the filter sponge or java moss). that's what I refer to it as. I could be way off. I was the guy referring to trio as triple or triplet or something, so as far as looking less intelligent... Thanks for your input, and the reminder to use every outcome as a learning experience. Archie Christian Creator & Author of "An Idiots Guide to Guiding Idiots" Phone (443) 287-3053 Pager (410) 283-9300 Email Achrist@jhmi.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader