Hi Mike, Thank you very much for your input. I have been running the Fluval peat granular through my filter cartridge, but it doesn't seem to be doing the trick. I don't know the purity of it, perhaps a trips to the lawn and garden store will make a difference. I just read in one of my back issues of Freshwater and Marine Aquariums about the boiling of the water idea. I am in the process of trying it out. I am curious though, why do you indicate to siphone off the top 1/3 of the water? In the species clarification, I belive I have the cacatuoides. I am a little disheartened, I thought they were the same as the Inca's. Nonetheless, they are beautiful specimens. I hope to have some fry ready for the aca convention in July. Would you recommend that I can put the cacatuoides in the same tank with pelviachromis pulchers? Right now I only have the pair in a 10 gallon tank. I was looking at the apistograma borelli as well. I thought the two would be a nice contrast to each other. tia Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com> To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Apistograma Cacatuiodes > Colleen, > > A. sp. Inca looks like A. nijsseni with an expanded dorsal fin, like A. sp. Breitbinden/Broad-band. A 3X cacatuoides is a standard yellow A. cacatuoides with large amounts of red on the dorsal, caudal, & anal fins. Rayon Vert Aqua has good photos of both species on its site, or look through a search engine for the 2 names. > > As for you hard water, the KH can be reduced by boiling the water, letting it cool slightly, & siphoning off the top 1/3 of the water. The boiling drives off gasses including CO2 & causes the CO3 to precipitate out & concentrate in the bottom of the pan. This is an old, old, method & not very useful for quantities of water more than 5 gallons/20 liters at a time. You > can also dilute your tap water with distilled (expensive) or rainwater (irregular). Neither are ideal options. > > Probably the best method to slightly soften the water is to run the water through sphagnum peat. It will lower the KH more than the GH. Never use the standard aquarium water softening pillows. These just substitute chloride ions for the other ions. This increases your conductivity - something apistos don't like. > > There are several apistos that will breed in your water as it is. A. cacatuoides is one. Unfortunately A. sp. Inca does not. Others I'd suggest are A. sp. Rotpunkt, A. borellii, A. macmasteri, A. viejita forms, A. eunotus forms, & A caetei forms. Experienced breeders can even get others to breed in such water, but the number of fry are usually low. > > Mike Wise > > Colleen McGuire wrote: > > > Could someone explain to me the difference of tripple red Cacatuiodes and inca's? I thought they were one in the same. Also, what are some suggestions as to lower the kh and gh? Right now in my cacatuiode tank I am running 4degrees kh and 11 degrees gh. I don't have a reverse osmosis unit, and I haven't had much luck with the water softener pillows. tia. Colleen > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader