[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index][Index by Month]

Re: Apisto's in Canada



Thanks to everyone who replied to my email.  I'll surely look up Henry at DAD's when I'm in Edmonton next month.  
Sylvian, thanks for the offer, and please let me know when they are ready to be shipped.

I'll try and get some good pictures up of my A. cruzi?? so you all can take a look and see.

So again thanks everyone.  And don't forget, if you live in Canada and have apisto's that you don't mind selling and shipping, drop me an email.

Steve
Winnipeg, MB

MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404)
Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)"
Content-transfer-encoding:
Content-description: Digest for apisto


--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr1so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.110])
 by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003))
 with ESMTP id <0HEQ00836BXSKU@l-daemon> for apisto@v2.listbox.com; Sun,
 11 May 2003 09:49:04 -0600 (MDT)
Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca
 (pn2ml4so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.148]) by l-daemon
 (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003))
 with ESMTP id <0HEQ00EK3BXSYM@l-daemon> for apisto@v2.listbox.com; Sun,
 11 May 2003 09:49:04 -0600 (MDT)
Received: from c5871370a (h24-66-32-112.wp.shawcable.net [24.66.32.112])
 by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003))
 with ESMTP id <0HEQ00FRDBXQNH@l-daemon> for apisto@v2.listbox.com; Sun,
 11 May 2003 09:49:03 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:51:18 -0700
From: Steve Bansee <stevebansee@shaw.ca>
Subject: Apisto's in Canada
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <000001c317e5$ed50c8f0$70204218@c5871370a>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Importance: Normal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
Lines: 37

Hello all,

 

My name is Steve, I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.  I've been part of
this list for some time now but I've been mostly viewing.  I have kept a
few Apisto's, A. cruzi, A borelli, A agassizii and A. eunotus and I have
had some luck breeding them all, but never much fry survived.

But from reading Dr. Uwe Romer's Cichlid Atlas, I'm not to sure the A.
cruzi is A. cruzi because the ones I have has breed in my local tap
water, pH 7.5 gh 4, kh 4.  I'll have to post some pictures for you all
to help me ID them.

 

Ok, now for the real reason I'm writing this email.  I have just
installed an RO unit, and thought I might try some other Apisto's.
Locally there is not much to be had.  So if anyone has Apisto's they're
willing to sell and ship, please let me know.

 

One other question for those who has Romer's Cichlid Atlas.  In the
species description, eg. A. cruzi, last paragraph after the remarks
paragraph, what does the numbers mean.  I know T: is temp, L: size, but
what is A, R and D.

Some pictures of my tanks can be found in the Gallery section of
www.asw.ca <http://www.asw.ca/> .

 

Thanks

Steve


--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from crockerm ([65.219.172.17])	by b.mail.peak.org (8.12.8/8.12.2)
 with SMTP id h4BG2YQk050473	for <apisto@v2.listbox.com>; Sun,
 11 May 2003 16:02:37 +0000 (envelope-from crockerm@peak.org)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 09:02:43 -0700
From: Matt & Linda Crocker <crockerm@peak.org>
Subject: Re: Apisto's in Canada
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <000d01c317d6$c27cb9e0$aa03a8c0@crockerm>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
X-Spam-Score: -5.4 ()
 INVALID_MSGID,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OE
X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.29 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang)
Lines: 76
References: <000001c317e5$ed50c8f0$70204218@c5871370a>

Steve,

    A = Aquarium length,  in centimeters

    R = Region of tank they use, i.e., middle, bottom

    D = Degree of difficulty to keep,  D1 being easiest, D4 being
most difficult


Matt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Bansee" <stevebansee@shaw.ca>
To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 10:51 AM
Subject: Apisto's in Canada


> Hello all,
>
>
>
> My name is Steve, I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.  I've been
part of
> this list for some time now but I've been mostly viewing.  I have
kept a
> few Apisto's, A. cruzi, A borelli, A agassizii and A. eunotus and
I have
> had some luck breeding them all, but never much fry survived.
>
> But from reading Dr. Uwe Romer's Cichlid Atlas, I'm not to sure
the A.
> cruzi is A. cruzi because the ones I have has breed in my local
tap
> water, pH 7.5 gh 4, kh 4.  I'll have to post some pictures for you
all
> to help me ID them.
>
>
>
> Ok, now for the real reason I'm writing this email.  I have just
> installed an RO unit, and thought I might try some other Apisto's.
> Locally there is not much to be had.  So if anyone has Apisto's
they're
> willing to sell and ship, please let me know.
>
>
>
> One other question for those who has Romer's Cichlid Atlas.  In
the
> species description, eg. A. cruzi, last paragraph after the
remarks
> paragraph, what does the numbers mean.  I know T: is temp, L:
size, but
> what is A, R and D.
>
> Some pictures of my tanks can be found in the Gallery section of
> www.asw.ca <http://www.asw.ca/> .
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also
available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader



--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from lenkevnbo4pouw ([24.202.115.51]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca
 (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.10 (built Jan 23 2003))
 with SMTP id <0HEQ0076OE2HQO@VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca> for
 apisto@v2.listbox.com; Sun, 11 May 2003 12:35:05 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 12:34:46 -0400
From: Geo/Len <szucs@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Apisto's in Canada
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <001d01c317db$3da8dfa0$3373ca18@lenkevnbo4pouw>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
Lines: 53
References: <000001c317e5$ed50c8f0$70204218@c5871370a>

Hi Steve

Have you try DADS fishroom in Edmonton

Henry usually has alot of nice Apisto

George

(Montreal)

> Hello all,
> 
>  
> 
> My name is Steve, I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.  I've been part of
> this list for some time now but I've been mostly viewing.  I have kept a
> few Apisto's, A. cruzi, A borelli, A agassizii and A. eunotus and I have
> had some luck breeding them all, but never much fry survived.
> 
> But from reading Dr. Uwe Romer's Cichlid Atlas, I'm not to sure the A.
> cruzi is A. cruzi because the ones I have has breed in my local tap
> water, pH 7.5 gh 4, kh 4.  I'll have to post some pictures for you all
> to help me ID them.
> 
>  
> 
> Ok, now for the real reason I'm writing this email.  I have just
> installed an RO unit, and thought I might try some other Apisto's.
> Locally there is not much to be had.  So if anyone has Apisto's they're
> willing to sell and ship, please let me know.
> 
>  
> 
> One other question for those who has Romer's Cichlid Atlas.  In the
> species description, eg. A. cruzi, last paragraph after the remarks
> paragraph, what does the numbers mean.  I know T: is temp, L: size, but
> what is A, R and D.
> 
> Some pictures of my tanks can be found in the Gallery section of
> www.asw.ca <http://www.asw.ca/> .
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader

--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from riki ([65.92.133.189]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net
 (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516)
 with SMTP id <20030511161058.MCTF28601.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@riki>; Sun,
 11 May 2003 12:10:58 -0400
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 12:11:15 -0400
From: Sylvain Ricard <sylvain.acqtr@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Apisto's in Canada
To: Steve Bansee <stevebansee@shaw.ca>, apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <003e01c317d7$f30feae0$0200a8c0@riki>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
Lines: 77
References: <000001c317e5$ed50c8f0$70204218@c5871370a>

I think we have the same problem everywhere here in Canada.

So I have:

German blue Rams
Ap. Macmasteri
Ap. Agassizi alenquer blue Yellow
Ap. Agassizi Blue alenquer
Ap. Caetei
Ap. Honglois
Ap. Cacatoides
Ap. Bitaeniata
Ap. Nijsseni
Laetacara dorsigera

I have some avelins of macmasteri, Caetei,  Honglois and Rams... but to
young to be shipping.

So i save your e-mail adress and i will contact you if you want later.

Have a nice day

Sylvain Ricard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Bansee" <stevebansee@shaw.ca>
To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: Apisto's in Canada


> Hello all,
>
>
>
> My name is Steve, I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.  I've been part of
> this list for some time now but I've been mostly viewing.  I have kept a
> few Apisto's, A. cruzi, A borelli, A agassizii and A. eunotus and I have
> had some luck breeding them all, but never much fry survived.
>
> But from reading Dr. Uwe Romer's Cichlid Atlas, I'm not to sure the A.
> cruzi is A. cruzi because the ones I have has breed in my local tap
> water, pH 7.5 gh 4, kh 4.  I'll have to post some pictures for you all
> to help me ID them.
>
>
>
> Ok, now for the real reason I'm writing this email.  I have just
> installed an RO unit, and thought I might try some other Apisto's.
> Locally there is not much to be had.  So if anyone has Apisto's they're
> willing to sell and ship, please let me know.
>
>
>
> One other question for those who has Romer's Cichlid Atlas.  In the
> species description, eg. A. cruzi, last paragraph after the remarks
> paragraph, what does the numbers mean.  I know T: is temp, L: size, but
> what is A, R and D.
>
> Some pictures of my tanks can be found in the Gallery section of
> www.asw.ca <http://www.asw.ca/> .
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
>



--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37])
	by admin.listbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DE1265F1	for
 <apisto@listbox.com>; Sun, 11 May 2003 12:57:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from R3K1@aol.com	by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.22.)
 id i.bc.37e516b1 (3948)	for <apisto@listbox.com>; Sun,
 11 May 2003 12:57:41 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 12:57:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: R3K1@aol.com
Subject: Fish as Baggage
To: apisto@listbox.com
Message-id: <bc.37e516b1.2befdb05@aol.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10634
Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-language: en
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Lines: 67

Hi all,

For those of us who are planning on attending the ACA convention in=20
Cincinnati this July and would like to bring some fish, Mike Wise's message=
=20
(see below) is alarming.

Last year (ACA 2002), I was given a very difficult time at Newark, NJ,=20
Airport.  After learning that I was carrying two well packed, three-inch=20
Hemichromis lifalili, intending to bring them into the cabin with me, the=
=20
airline staff demanded that I leave the security area and escorted me back=
=20
out into the main terminal.  From there I was interrogated by someone from=
=20
central control who was called to the seen specifically for that purpose.  =
I=20
was told that I would have to pay an additional $70.00 to carry my fish int=
o=20
the cabin.  Rather than pay the money, I explained that I had spoken with t=
he=20
appropriate airline personnel prior to booking the flight and was assured=
=20
that I could carry my two fish into the cabin with me at no extra charge.=
=20=20
The security officer explained that such was not airport policy, to which I=
=20
responded that my flight was leaving in ten minutes.  By this time, I had=
=20
been at the airport for over an hour-and-a-half.

In the end, I was allowed to board, fish in hand, without having to pay for=
=20
the privilege or further hassle, but this was an experience that I don't ca=
re=20
to repeat.

Continental will accept pets on their planes, arranged in advance, as cargo=
=20
for $80.00, but according to the airline's Live Animal Desk, will only acce=
pt=20
dogs, cats, rabbits and birds.

Does anyone here on the list have any information or recommendations=20
regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati successfully?  I've already asked=
=20
someone at the host club about it via email and was told "I can=E2=80=99t s=
peak for=20
the airlines, so I would suggest that you call the carrier that you are=20
considering using and ask them."  Been there, done that thank you.

All the best,

Randall Kohn
Chester, NJ


Rik,

Thanks for the promo. Unfortunately I won't be able to bring anything this
time. Ever since last December, when airlines started X-raying or visually
inspecting every piece of baggage, I have found it impossible to take fish
on aircraft as baggage - carry on or checked in. Before December I could get
them on mixed in my luggage, but not now that everything going on the plain
is checked out. Some airlines will take them as air freight at a high cost,
but that is all. Have others found this to be true? Does anyone know of any
domestic US airlines that permits taking fish as baggage?

--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from LeeH920226@aol.com	by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.22.)
 id 2.18c.1a246424 (16781)	for <apisto@v2.listbox.com>; Sun,
 11 May 2003 13:53:35 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 13:53:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: LeeH920226@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <18c.1a246424.2befe81f@aol.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 45
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Lines: 15


In a message dated 5/11/03 12:59:34 PM, R3K1@aol.com writes:

<< Does anyone here on the list have any information or recommendations 

regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati successfully? >>

    I suggest driving there -- cheaper and almost as quick when you consider 
the delays at the airports at each end plus the hassle and uncertainty of 
fish transport. From here it is less than a 10 hour drive. Probably 2 hours 
more for you.

Lee Harper
Media, PA 
USA

--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from lenkevnbo4pouw ([24.202.115.51]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca
 (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.10 (built Jan 23 2003))
 with SMTP id <0HEQ00KDRIZBMA@VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca> for
 apisto@v2.listbox.com; Sun, 11 May 2003 14:21:11 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:20:37 -0400
From: Geo/Len <szucs@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Apisto's in Canada
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <004701c317ea$05dfe050$3373ca18@lenkevnbo4pouw>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
Lines: 5
References: <000001c317e5$ed50c8f0$70204218@c5871370a>
 <003e01c317d7$f30feae0$0200a8c0@riki>

Hi Sylvain

What part of Canada do you live in

George in Montreal

--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from Apistogramma ([24.203.18.154]) by VL-MS-MR004.sc1.videotron.ca
 (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.10 (built Jan 23 2003))
 with ESMTP id <0HEQ008WJKZ4DN@VL-MS-MR004.sc1.videotron.ca> for
 apisto@v2.listbox.com; Sun, 11 May 2003 15:04:28 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 15:02:15 -0400
From: Patrick 'ZapZap' Lin <zapzap@zwf.net>
Subject: RE: Apisto's in Canada
In-reply-to: <004701c317ea$05dfe050$3373ca18@lenkevnbo4pouw>
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Reply-to: zapzap@zwf.net
Message-id: <002a01c317ef$d98e2560$65fea8c0@Apistogramma>
Organization: ZwF Corp.
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Importance: Normal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
Lines: 28

Hi george,

Sylvain is from montreal :)
Hehe like us

ZapZap

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com] On
Behalf Of Geo/Len
Sent: 11 mai 2003 14:21
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: Apisto's in Canada

Hi Sylvain

What part of Canada do you live in

George in Montreal

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader



--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from [213.36.28.221] (213.36.28.221)
 by mail.libertysurf.net (6.5.026) id 3E9CBDD7004F8F5E for
 apisto@v2.listbox.com; Sun, 11 May 2003 22:20:12 +0200
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:20:08 +0200
From: Dujardin Colin <coenga@infonie.fr>
Subject: Helen Burns
In-reply-to: <20030511105338.57575168A8E@umbrella.listbox.com>
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <BAE47D18.1A24%coenga@infonie.fr>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022
Lines: 19

on 11/05/03 12:53,
"Sonia Guinane" <sonia.guinane@ntlworld.com>

> Subject: Helen Burns
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> It is with much regret that I have to inform you of the death of our dear
> friend Helen Burns earlier this week. I am certain that everyone who knew her
> will be saddened by this tragic news and she will be greatly missed by all her
> fishkeeping friends.
> 
> Sonia & Dave


That is sad news. She was a Great person.

Colin


--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from JerrCarol@aol.com	by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.22.)
 id 2.13.1c8859ef (4312)	for <apisto@v2.listbox.com>; Sun,
 11 May 2003 16:55:54 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 16:55:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: JerrCarol@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <13.1c8859ef.2bf012d9@aol.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6011
Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-language: en
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Lines: 51

In a message dated 5/11/2003 12:59:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, R3K1@aol.co=
m=20
writes:

> Does anyone here on the list have any information or recommendations=20
> regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati successfully?  I've already aske=
d=20
> someone at the host club about it via email and was told "I can=E2=80=99t=
 speak for=20
>=20
> the airlines, so I would suggest that you call the carrier that you are=
=20
> considering using and ask them."  Been there, done that thank you.
>=20
> All the best,
>=20
> Randall Kohn
> Chester, NJ
>=20

  If I wanted to take fish then I'd just ship them to the Hotel room I was=
=20
going to be in and have them held at the desk until I arrive. Also getting=
=20
fish back home would just do the reverse. That is why I didn't bother at th=
e=20
OCA. Didn't want to go through the hassle. Only easy way is to drive yourse=
lf=20
and just pack up your car.
Jerry*B*=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the Apistogramma mailing list, apisto@v2listbox.com.
For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help,
email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
***************************************************************************=
***

**
After eating an entire Bull, a Mountain Lion felt so good he started  **
Roaring. He kept it up until a Hunter came along and shot him......  **
The Moral : When you're full of Bull, Keep Your Mouth Shut.           **
***************************************************************************=
***

**




--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: (qmail 11811 invoked from network); Mon, 12 May 2003 11:41:27 +0000
Received: from unknown (205.158.62.146) by spf1.us.outblaze.com with QMQP; Mon,
 12 May 2003 11:41:27 +0000
Received: (qmail 12641 invoked from network); Mon, 12 May 2003 11:36:41 +0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ws2.hk5.outblaze.com) (202.77.181.84)
 by 205-158-62-146.outblaze.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:36:41 +0000
Received: (qmail 13943 invoked by uid 1001); Mon, 12 May 2003 11:42:06 +0000
Received: from [62.57.209.109] by ws2.hk5.outblaze.com with http for
 mr_apisto@graffiti.net; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:42:06 +0100
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:42:06 +0100
From: Colin Gorton <mr_apisto@graffiti.net>
Subject: Re: Helen Burns
X-Originating-IP: 62.57.209.109
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <20030512114206.13942.qmail@graffiti.net>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-disposition: inline
X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk5.outblaze.com
Lines: 34

I never met her and thus cannot add more. Other than that I'd like to pass on my condolences to those that did know her and her family. I, very recently, lost my fiancee under unexpected circumstances and feel for you all. I know that her contributions to this list were always valuable and I shall miss her. 
C:-)lin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonia Guinane" <sonia.guinane@ntlworld.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 20:48:58 +0100
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Subject: Helen Burns

> Hi everyone,
> 
> It is with much regret that I have to inform you of the death of our dear friend Helen Burns earlier this week. I am certain that everyone who knew her will be saddened by this tragic news and she will be greatly missed by all her fishkeeping friends.
> 
> Sonia & Dave
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> 



C:-)lin

They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled, and sure enough...

-- 
_______________________________________________
Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net

Powered by Outblaze

--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from bewellnet.com
 (66-239-4-174.ecrii.com [66.239.4.174] (may be forged))
	by drone.ecrii.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h4CHYFP23887	for
 <apisto@v2.listbox.com>; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:34:15 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:07:58 -0600
From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Reply-to: apistowise@bewellnet.com
Message-id: <3EBFD4ED.D12FDC63@bewellnet.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win95; U)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Accept-Language: en
Lines: 35
References: <18c.1a246424.2befe81f@aol.com>

Lee,

That's fine - unless like me you live 1500 miles from the event. In the past,
when I was invited to talk at various club meetings around the country, I would
bring a few pairs of apistos for the mini auction. Now the costs involved make
it impossible.

Mike Wise

LeeH920226@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 5/11/03 12:59:34 PM, R3K1@aol.com writes:
>
> << Does anyone here on the list have any information or recommendations
>
> regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati successfully? >>
>
>     I suggest driving there -- cheaper and almost as quick when you consider
> the delays at the airports at each end plus the hassle and uncertainty of
> fish transport. From here it is less than a 10 hour drive. Probably 2 hours
> more for you.
>
> Lee Harper
> Media, PA
> USA
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader




--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822
Content-transfer-encoding:

Received: from bewellnet.com
 (66-239-4-174.ecrii.com [66.239.4.174] (may be forged))
	by drone.ecrii.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h4CHYIP23891	for
 <apisto@v2.listbox.com>; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:34:18 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:38:14 -0600
From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
Subject: Re: Apisto's in Canada
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Reply-to: apistowise@bewellnet.com
Message-id: <3EBFDC04.B04FDE57@bewellnet.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win95; U)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT
X-Accept-Language: en
Lines: 33
References: <000001c317e5$ed50c8f0$70204218@c5871370a>

Steve,

I don't blame you for having problems with IDing your 'cruzi'. One problem
is that the fish Kullander used to describe A. cruzi were from 3 different
river systems & represent at least 2 different species! Only specimens
similar to the holotype, from the Rio Mazán, should be considered the true
A. cruzi. Adding to this the problem is, that commercial collectors list
nearly every regani-group fish that has abdominal stripes as 'A. cruzi',
adds more confusion. Uwe's Atlas pictures at least 3 different different
species as A. cruzi. The only photo in Römer's Atlas that I'm sure is the
same as the holotype of A. cruzi is the bottom photo on page 359. The true
A. cruzi is fairly rare in the hobby. Males can easily be recognized by
their unspotted, bicolored, tail - orange in the upper lobe & pink in the
lower lobe.

Mike Wise

Steve Bansee wrote:

> But from reading Dr. Uwe Romer's Cichlid Atlas, I'm not to sure the A.
> cruzi is A. cruzi because the ones I have has breed in my local tap
> water, pH 7.5 gh 4, kh 4.  I'll have to post some pictures for you all
> to help me ID them.
>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader



--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from hotmail.com (f102.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.102])
	by admin.listbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC8C2662A	for
 <apisto@listbox.com>; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:19:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
 12 May 2003 13:19:14 -0700
Received: from 66.200.55.210 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
 12 May 2003 20:19:14 +0000 (GMT)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:19:14 +0000
From: Max Gallade <mgallade@hotmail.com>
X-Originating-IP: [66.200.55.210]
To: m.gallade@jdneuhaus.com
Message-id: <Law12-F102DC0AHmKqy0000ffda@hotmail.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Originating-Email: [mgallade@hotmail.com]
Lines: 15
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2003 20:19:14.0957 (UTC)
 FILETIME=[C20913D0:01C318C3]





Visit "The Digital Aquarium" and L&M Tropicals  home of rare, high quality 
Dwarf Cichlids: http://www.apisto.bravepages.com
E-mail:
mgallade@hotmail.com
lmtropicals@apisto.bravepages.com
mgallade@apisto.bravepages.com

_________________________________________________________________
Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. 
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail


--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from hotmail.com (f102.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.102])
	by admin.listbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16953265F1	for
 <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:19:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon,
 12 May 2003 13:19:14 -0700
Received: from 66.200.55.210 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon,
 12 May 2003 20:19:14 +0000 (GMT)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:19:14 +0000
From: Max Gallade <mgallade@hotmail.com>
X-Originating-IP: [66.200.55.210]
To: m.gallade@jdneuhaus.com
Message-id: <Law12-F102DC0AHmKqy0000ffda@hotmail.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Originating-Email: [mgallade@hotmail.com]
Lines: 15
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2003 20:19:14.0957 (UTC)
 FILETIME=[C20913D0:01C318C3]





Visit "The Digital Aquarium" and L&M Tropicals  home of rare, high quality 
Dwarf Cichlids: http://www.apisto.bravepages.com
E-mail:
mgallade@hotmail.com
lmtropicals@apisto.bravepages.com
mgallade@apisto.bravepages.com

_________________________________________________________________
Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. 
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail


--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from [216.187.171.212] by web10501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue,
 13 May 2003 09:09:48 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 09:09:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob Wiltshire <apistobob@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
In-reply-to: <3EBFD4ED.D12FDC63@bewellnet.com>
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <20030513160948.13887.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Lines: 81

After watching a lot of people in airports I think the
next time I have a single pair of fish I am going to
transfer them into a Starbucks cup and just walk
through as though it is a cup of coffee. It seems to
me that the fish will travel fine and I have never
seen anyone have their coffee searched.

Bob

--- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
wrote:
> Lee,
> 
> That's fine - unless like me you live 1500 miles
> from the event. In the past,
> when I was invited to talk at various club meetings
> around the country, I would
> bring a few pairs of apistos for the mini auction.
> Now the costs involved make
> it impossible.
> 
> Mike Wise
> 
> LeeH920226@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 5/11/03 12:59:34 PM,
> R3K1@aol.com writes:
> >
> > << Does anyone here on the list have any
> information or recommendations
> >
> > regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati
> successfully? >>
> >
> >     I suggest driving there -- cheaper and almost
> as quick when you consider
> > the delays at the airports at each end plus the
> hassle and uncertainty of
> > fish transport. From here it is less than a 10
> hour drive. Probably 2 hours
> > more for you.
> >
> > Lee Harper
> > Media, PA
> > USA
> >
> >
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
> apisto@listbox.com. For
> > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
> get help, email
> > apisto-request@listbox.com.
> apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
> Trading at
> >
>
http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> 
> 
> 
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
> apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
> get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com.
> apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
> Trading at
>
http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader


__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
http://search.yahoo.com

--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: by KRYPTONMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52)
	id <KLP50T23>; Tue, 13 May 2003 12:23:27 -0400
Received: from GHORIG ([198.102.16.36]) by kryptonmail.spacenet.com with SMTP
 (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2654.52)
	id KLP50T2N; Tue, 13 May 2003 12:23:25 -0400
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:21:39 -0400
From: Ghazanfar Ghori <ghori@ghori.net>
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <000501c3196b$bb4719e0$241066c6@ghorig>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
Lines: 100
References: <20030513160948.13887.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>

    Someone tried to sneak in a flamable liquid a few years back in
    a coffee cup - so now they sometimes ask you to sip the coffee. Some
    airline have outright banned carry on beverages.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Wiltshire" <apistobob@yahoo.com>
To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage


> After watching a lot of people in airports I think the
> next time I have a single pair of fish I am going to
> transfer them into a Starbucks cup and just walk
> through as though it is a cup of coffee. It seems to
> me that the fish will travel fine and I have never
> seen anyone have their coffee searched.
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
> wrote:
> > Lee,
> > 
> > That's fine - unless like me you live 1500 miles
> > from the event. In the past,
> > when I was invited to talk at various club meetings
> > around the country, I would
> > bring a few pairs of apistos for the mini auction.
> > Now the costs involved make
> > it impossible.
> > 
> > Mike Wise
> > 
> > LeeH920226@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > In a message dated 5/11/03 12:59:34 PM,
> > R3K1@aol.com writes:
> > >
> > > << Does anyone here on the list have any
> > information or recommendations
> > >
> > > regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati
> > successfully? >>
> > >
> > >     I suggest driving there -- cheaper and almost
> > as quick when you consider
> > > the delays at the airports at each end plus the
> > hassle and uncertainty of
> > > fish transport. From here it is less than a 10
> > hour drive. Probably 2 hours
> > > more for you.
> > >
> > > Lee Harper
> > > Media, PA
> > > USA
> > >
> > >
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
> > apisto@listbox.com. For
> > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
> > get help, email
> > > apisto-request@listbox.com.
> > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
> > Trading at
> > >
> >
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
> > apisto@listbox.com. For
> > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
> > get help, email
> > apisto-request@listbox.com.
> > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
> > Trading at
> >
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> 
> 
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> http://search.yahoo.com
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> 

--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from eric.www.fancifulfins.com
 (cs666863-244.austin.rr.com [66.68.63.244])	by ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com
 (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4E0avnW026920	for <apisto@v2.listbox.com>; Tue,
 13 May 2003 19:36:57 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:34:42 -0500
From: Apist-O-Rama <apistorama@fancifulfins.com>
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
In-reply-to: <000501c3196b$bb4719e0$241066c6@ghorig>
X-Sender: emartina@www.fancifulfins.com (Unverified)
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030513193419.00aaab40@www.fancifulfins.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Lines: 111
References: <20030513160948.13887.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>

You could still have some liquid in the cup around the bag of fish...

At 12:21 PM 5/13/03 -0400, you wrote:
>     Someone tried to sneak in a flamable liquid a few years back in
>     a coffee cup - so now they sometimes ask you to sip the coffee. Some
>     airline have outright banned carry on beverages.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Wiltshire" <apistobob@yahoo.com>
>To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:09 PM
>Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
>
>
> > After watching a lot of people in airports I think the
> > next time I have a single pair of fish I am going to
> > transfer them into a Starbucks cup and just walk
> > through as though it is a cup of coffee. It seems to
> > me that the fish will travel fine and I have never
> > seen anyone have their coffee searched.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Lee,
> > >
> > > That's fine - unless like me you live 1500 miles
> > > from the event. In the past,
> > > when I was invited to talk at various club meetings
> > > around the country, I would
> > > bring a few pairs of apistos for the mini auction.
> > > Now the costs involved make
> > > it impossible.
> > >
> > > Mike Wise
> > >
> > > LeeH920226@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 5/11/03 12:59:34 PM,
> > > R3K1@aol.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > << Does anyone here on the list have any
> > > information or recommendations
> > > >
> > > > regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati
> > > successfully? >>
> > > >
> > > >     I suggest driving there -- cheaper and almost
> > > as quick when you consider
> > > > the delays at the airports at each end plus the
> > > hassle and uncertainty of
> > > > fish transport. From here it is less than a 10
> > > hour drive. Probably 2 hours
> > > > more for you.
> > > >
> > > > Lee Harper
> > > > Media, PA
> > > > USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
> > > apisto@listbox.com. For
> > > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
> > > get help, email
> > > > apisto-request@listbox.com.
> > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
> > > Trading at
> > > >
> > >
> > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
> > > apisto@listbox.com. For
> > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
> > > get help, email
> > > apisto-request@listbox.com.
> > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
> > > Trading at
> > >
> > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > http://search.yahoo.com
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> >
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
>instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
>apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
>Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
>http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader


--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from athlon.sympatico.ca ([64.228.220.170])
 by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net
 (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516)
 with ESMTP id <20030514011755.IBXP846.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@athlon.sympatico.ca> for
 <apisto@v2.listbox.com>; Tue, 13 May 2003 21:17:55 -0400
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 21:21:17 -0400
From: David Trescak <aquapassion@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030513193419.00aaab40@www.fancifulfins.com>
X-Sender: b1vcct43@pop1.sympatico.ca
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030513212001.00a18170@pop1.sympatico.ca>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Lines: 125
References: <000501c3196b$bb4719e0$241066c6@ghorig>
 <20030513160948.13887.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>

That would have to be a BIG cup of coffee!!!!
What if you had to bring 4 or 5 bags?

      "Officer, I'm a coffeeholic!!"

At 19:34 03-05-13 -0500, you wrote:
>You could still have some liquid in the cup around the bag of fish...
>
>At 12:21 PM 5/13/03 -0400, you wrote:
>>     Someone tried to sneak in a flamable liquid a few years back in
>>     a coffee cup - so now they sometimes ask you to sip the coffee. Some
>>     airline have outright banned carry on beverages.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Bob Wiltshire" <apistobob@yahoo.com>
>>To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: Fish as Baggage
>>
>>
>> > After watching a lot of people in airports I think the
>> > next time I have a single pair of fish I am going to
>> > transfer them into a Starbucks cup and just walk
>> > through as though it is a cup of coffee. It seems to
>> > me that the fish will travel fine and I have never
>> > seen anyone have their coffee searched.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Lee,
>> > >
>> > > That's fine - unless like me you live 1500 miles
>> > > from the event. In the past,
>> > > when I was invited to talk at various club meetings
>> > > around the country, I would
>> > > bring a few pairs of apistos for the mini auction.
>> > > Now the costs involved make
>> > > it impossible.
>> > >
>> > > Mike Wise
>> > >
>> > > LeeH920226@aol.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In a message dated 5/11/03 12:59:34 PM,
>> > > R3K1@aol.com writes:
>> > > >
>> > > > << Does anyone here on the list have any
>> > > information or recommendations
>> > > >
>> > > > regarding getting our fish to Cincinnati
>> > > successfully? >>
>> > > >
>> > > >     I suggest driving there -- cheaper and almost
>> > > as quick when you consider
>> > > > the delays at the airports at each end plus the
>> > > hassle and uncertainty of
>> > > > fish transport. From here it is less than a 10
>> > > hour drive. Probably 2 hours
>> > > > more for you.
>> > > >
>> > > > Lee Harper
>> > > > Media, PA
>> > > > USA
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
>> > > apisto@listbox.com. For
>> > > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
>> > > get help, email
>> > > > apisto-request@listbox.com.
>> > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
>> > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
>> > > Trading at
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list,
>> > > apisto@listbox.com. For
>> > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or
>> > > get help, email
>> > > apisto-request@listbox.com.
>> > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
>> > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto
>> > > Trading at
>> > >
>> > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
>> >
>> >
>> > __________________________________
>> > Do you Yahoo!?
>> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
>> > http://search.yahoo.com
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
>> > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
>> > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
>> > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
>> > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
>> >
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
>>instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
>>apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
>>Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
>>http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
>instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
>apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
>Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
>http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader



--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)

Content-type: message/rfc822

Received: from ray ([213.48.241.39]) by blueyonder.co.uk  with Microsoft
 SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 14 May 2003 19:04:17 +0100
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:03:27 +0100
From: Ray <rbnw34747@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Helen Burns
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Message-id: <002e01c31a43$2caa5fc0$27f130d5@ray>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
Lines: 59
References: <20030512114206.13942.qmail@graffiti.net>

hi Colin  our condolences to you on your sade lose from      ALAN -
PAUL-KEITH-PEDRO PETE  --------only meet HELEN twice nice lady sade loss to
the hobby -----scouse RAY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Gorton" <mr_apisto@graffiti.net>
To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Helen Burns


> I never met her and thus cannot add more. Other than that I'd like to pass
on my condolences to those that did know her and her family. I, very
recently, lost my fiancee under unexpected circumstances and feel for you
all. I know that her contributions to this list were always valuable and I
shall miss her.
> C:-)lin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sonia Guinane" <sonia.guinane@ntlworld.com>
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 20:48:58 +0100
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Subject: Helen Burns
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > It is with much regret that I have to inform you of the death of our
dear friend Helen Burns earlier this week. I am certain that everyone who
knew her will be saddened by this tragic news and she will be greatly missed
by all her fishkeeping friends.
> >
> > Sonia & Dave
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader
> >
>
>
>
> C:-)lin
>
> They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled, and sure enough...
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net
>
> Powered by Outblaze
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
> instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
> apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
> Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
> http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader


--Boundary_(ID_HdVpYFxJrftNmqGObNYdJg)--

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For
instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email
apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available.
Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at
http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader