You are on fire!!! :) Rui Estrelinha ----- Original Message ----- From: "António Vitor" <antonio.vitor@sapo.pt> To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 3:29 AM Subject: Re: Looking for Apistogramma Aggassizzi Tefe > I want to add something to this topic... > well, I do believe that when we buy wild Apistogrammas, from the amazon > (region of the Piaba project, don't know if this is the case of the > agassizzi tefe), we are indeed protecting a part of the amazon... > > let me explain a little more, when there is economic viability from the > natural resources, there will be "cinergetic" forces working towards > protecting that environment, all the population that beneficts from the > natural resources will work towards that goal! > > there is some gold extraction from the amazon (using mercury), that can kill > easily a small river...where this project (piaba project) is working, the > amazon is being protected...there is no ilegal wood extraction...and ilegal > mining on the Piaba region... > > "buy a fish save a tree"... > http://finarama.com/projectpiaba/ > > I prefer ALLWAYS the original Apistogrammas... > Man cannot build something better than nature! > (my opinion) > > Regards! > António Vitor from Portugal > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Barbax66@wmconnect.com> > To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 9:40 PM > Subject: Re: Looking for Apistogramma Aggassizzi Tefe > > > > well your reasoning for wanting wild fish is valid yet it is also flawed. > let > > me explain. It ois true that some hobbyists fail to keep their lines pure > so > > you may have seen a tefe aggie that did not throw pure tefe this may have > been > > because an unsuspecting hobbyist crossed it to another form of aggie > > something that may well happen. However I feel the benefits of tank bred > fish are far > > greater! Most Europeans and some (sadley very very few American > hobbyists) > > AMerican breeders line breed Apistos and are far diffrent from the wild > fish we > > see. We can call it line breeding or simply seriousl;y working with a > species > > inorder to improve it not just color wise but also behavior wise. My point > is > > that you will find A.agassizi tefe probably from Europe and you wont have > the > > problems you discussed if you get them from a good source. Something all > of us > > should do is work with apistos and keep a line of them going for a few > years. > > something i find lacking in the states. Perhaps this will inspre others to > do > > the same. Anyway there has been little talk out there so maybe this will > > renew some intrest. Or maybe give us something to argue about lol best > fishes > > > > Dave > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader