Apistogramma and apistogramma like fishes seem okay as topics for dicsussion. The only reason I didn't call the list "Dwarf cichlids" is that seemed to open up the list to Mbuna. Checkerboards, Nannochromis, all are fair game. If there is consensus that there should be a separate list for these and keep this list soley for apisto's, I guess I can create another list. Regards,