To all, I have been keeping apistos and west africans for about 2 years now. I have also had some sucess breeding them as well. Specifically, Apistogramma agassizii,nijsseni and Pelvicachromis pulcher and taeniatus "Nigerian-red". But currently I'm working with A. bitaeniata, A. regani, and A. sp. "Schwrarzaum" that do not seem to want to spawn. All of the fish are wild caught except for the sp. "Schrwarzaum". I recently have been using adult brine to perk up their interest but nothing yet. The PH in the 3 tanks is at 7.0. Hardness is about 14ppm. Temp is at 78 degrees Fahrenheit. Any experiences with the above species or the like would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Phillip J. Ryti (Michigan,U.S.A.) rytireefs@juno.com ----------- Reminder: Kindly quote parsimoniously when replying ------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@aquaria.net. To subscribe or unsubscribe or get help , send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help" in the body (not subject) to apisto-request@aquaria.net ----------- Reminder: Kindly quote parsimoniously when replying ------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@aquaria.net. To subscribe or unsubscribe or get help , send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help" in the body (not subject) to apisto-request@aquaria.net