I use a home made food which works like a charm with almost all my fish (apistos, killies, tetras). The secret is not really the ingredients but to make it really smooth w/o any "lumps". 1 pt fish (low fat, salt water) 1 pt shrimps (whole, except tail and antennas) 1 pt peas spinach (just a little, can cause pigmentation-changes) vitamins orangejuice (for fresh vit-C) I don't do more than I feed in two months. Longer than that and some vitamins get old and useless.. Make absolutely sure that the peas and shrimps are processed to a lumpless paste. If you grind it enough it's very useful to fry (> 1 cm SL) as well. You may want to add some binding ingredients, since this falls apart quite easily and forms a cloud of particles (which is the way I want it). More fish and shrimps binds pretty good. I give them this about 40% of all feedings. Alternating with (frozen and/or live) mosquito-larvae, brine shrimp, daphnia and cyclops and they spawn regularly. Regards Fredrik - -- Fredrik Ljungberg, Linkoping, Sweden Fredrik.Ljungberg@saab.se