Here's a reply to my last FishNet Explore update from a member of the killies list that I'm passing on to the Apisto and Cichlid list. ========================================== William, Just thought I would add a few bits here, I work for John on the PetForum web pages and talk to him pretty regularly. Also there were more points mentioned at the live conference on the 16th. I believe the photos that are on FishNet right now are the ones John took personally. I think he may have some more also. But the real photos from my understanding are from Heiko who supposedly took almost 200 rolls of film. There are supposed to me more coming from him in the next few weeks. Also you can get more info from go Pets & Animals, where there are also web links. For those that are interested that don't have access to Compuserve try this url; http://world.compuserve.com/fish/default.htm. Also the fish photos are on http://member.compuserve.com/amazon/default.htm. Rhonda