In a message dated 97-11-23 02:28:54 EST, Ed Pon wrote: << The easiest way to get fry out of a brooding pseudocrenilabrus is to > wait till it's been carrying the eggs for 10 to 14 days, to be sure the > fry has hatched, and catch and strip the female. Drop the holding > female headfirst into a opened turkey baster, put the bulb back on, > immerse the open end of the turkey baster into a container containing > water from the fish tank, and slowly pump the water past the gills of > the female. The fry will be ejected into the container of water and the > female can be returned to the fish tank when this is done. >> >> Ed- Isn't that a bit extreme? I know if I were a fish, that would leave me emotionally scarred for life. It has been my experience, however limited, with Pseudocrenilabrus, that the female will release fry into the tank whenever she thinks she is about to be eaten. That may be scary enough, but it is a xhort-lived experience compared to the baster. I suppose if you could trick her into the baster, then put the bulb on, it might not be so bad. But physically, it would still seem to me to be kinda rough on a fish that is already weakened from a lengthy period of fasting. Just my own opinion- Bob