Since I am also trying to breed Rams, I would like to ask if the male should > be removed after the spawning which seems to be the advice for Apistos? > Thanks, > Leo I remove both parents, because they almost always eat the eggs. And the fertilization rate of the eggs is always low.Rams are difficult to breed, even to mantain , in my opinion. They are very demanding about water quality and food. \\\\|//// / _ _ \ ( (o) (o) ) __________oOOO___(_)___OOOo_________ Carlos Eduardo Alves Ribeiro http://www.Montreal.com.br/~carlos.ideiafix fish@montreal.com.br Rio de Janeiro - Brazil