Hi, I dont think it is temperature (was 80-81 F and rams had regularly spawned. Ammonia idea is possible, but it was not HUGE amount of food, and neons always picked up everything left, even with the danger of self-combustion. And here is still link to BS. May be, somehow BS results in more ammonia/nitrites. Are rams more suceptible to ick? My other fish in the same tank are fine, and some rams are much better now. Only males, unfortunately.. Thanks lilia > You don't need to reset the whole tank but ick is a pathogen whose nature > dictates that you treat the whole tank. It is doubtful that the brine shrimp > would be infected but if you feed large amounts and the ammonia, nitrites are > increased it may cause stress which results in compromising the immune system > of the fish. Also, if the rams are affected it might be the temperature in > the tank is below their optimum which may cause some stress. That is really > only a guess but might have relavance. What do others who keep Rams think? > > At 09:58 AM 1/28/98 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Thank you. I think it is ick, and try to get cure today. Is it possible > >the food source is contaminated? I had the problem before, and my friend > >had, fish always cleared themselves, it never was so nasty. And it always > >happened after 2 consecutive days of feeding with BS (we both have the > >same batch). In my absense he feeded it for 4 days - is it mere > >coincindence or my BS is infested? > >Does this infestation mean I need to reset the whole tank? > > > >Thanks > > > >Lilia > > > >On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, IDMiamiBob wrote: > > > >> Lilia wrote: > >> > >> << What are these > >> tiny white pin-heads on the whole body of the fish? >> > >> > >> Probably Ick, use Ick-guard or the equivalent. > >> Might be velvet. I've heard it can sometimes imitate the appearance of > ick. > >> There are a number of treatments available at your LFS. > >> > >> You might treat for both simultaneously, but I would try the ick thing > first, > >> unless the spots increase in size. Then it is velvet for sure. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > William M. Groth > groth@ruf.rice.edu > Senior Staff Auditor > Internal Audit Department > phone: (713) 527-8101 ext.3759 > fax: (713) 285-5927 > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >