Thank you David for the extra info. I went out today to look for thi medication but could not find it. I'll keep medicating with what I have and hope it works, also I will order some and have it on hand, if I should need it again. I moved the 2 fish to a separate tank. Diane AP>P.S. fluke tabs have a very good active ingrediant(though I can not AP>remember its name now) and is another very good option. There was AP>another message on the list that mentioned it. AP>David Sanchez AP>---Amos@grolen.com wrote: AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> David, AP>> AP>> Thank you for the response, yours was the only one I received.. I AP>have AP>> lost a Ram to his already and now I have the cacatuoids and another AP>ram AP>> that have the problem. I am affraid that I can't wait as long as it AP>> would take for the mail order to get here, I bought some Trisulfur b AP>> Mardel yesterday, do you think this will help? and Do you think it is AP>> still gill flukes if the others are getting it? I did a partial water AP>> change again yesterday before I medicated, to see if it would help. I AP>> really don't want to lose all of my fish. I have set up a 30 gal. tank AP>> but it's been running for only about 3 days now, should i move some of AP>> these fish in there? I really appreciate your input. Thanks AP>> Diane AP>> AP>> AP>Keep a close watch on the other fish to see if they develope any AP>> AP>similer sighns. At first it may sound like gill flukes, if that in AP>> AP>fact is the case then i reccomend Fluebenol 5% I am at work and AP>do not AP>> AP>have the dosage with me but it will work the best and is the most AP>> AP>gentle on the fish. Stuff like formaldahyde is very strong and may AP>> AP>kill a small fish like an Apisto. Get a copy of the TFH book Hand AP>Book AP>> AP>Of Fish Diseases. It has Info on Fluebenol 5% it will kill both AP>> AP>strains of flukes and info can be found in this book. You can find AP>> AP>this drug from FTFFA mail order. I will e-mail you the further info AP>> AP>when i get home. AP>> AP>> AP>David Sanchez AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>---Amos@grolen.com wrote: AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> Hello everyone, AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> I have a pair of Cacatuoids, and I have noticed that the AP>male is AP>> AP>> having a breathing problem. His gills are moving faster than AP>normal, i AP>> AP>> have noticed this since the weekend. I did a partial water AP>change, AP>> AP>that AP>> AP>> didn't help. The PH 6.4, Ammonia 0, nitrites 0, There is one AP>other AP>> AP>fish AP>> AP>> doing the same a Columbian Ram, He is still holding on. The AP>fishes AP>> AP>> color and scales are normal but the fish stay at the bottom. AP>they have AP>> AP>> no visible signs of illness other than this. What can I do? AP>What am I AP>> AP>> doing wrong? This tank has been set up since December. AP>> AP>> Thank You AP>> AP>> Diane AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- AP>> AP>> This is the apistogramma mailing list, AP>apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. AP>> AP>> Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing AP>List AP>> AP>Archives"! AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>_________________________________________________________ AP>> AP>DO YOU YAHOO!? AP>> AP>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- AP>> AP>Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing AP>List Archives" AP>> AP>> AP>> AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- AP>> Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List AP>Archives"! AP>> AP>_________________________________________________________ AP>DO YOU YAHOO!? AP>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com AP>------------------------------------------------------------------------- AP>Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"