Jan, I pulled your picture of the apisto off Doug Brown's page. Based on what I could see of the fish and the location from which it was collected, it appears to be a specimen of Apistogramma ortmanni. Annai (correct spelling) is a town along the middle reaches of the Rupununi River in Guyana. The only apistos from this part of Guyana are A. ortmanni, A. rupununi (= Zweifleck Apistogramma), and some old reports of A. steindachneri (probably A. rupununi). Apistogramma sp. Mamoré or Rio Mamoré is a trifasciata-like fish originally imported by Mimbon-Aquarium of Köln (Cologne to us English speakers) in 1995. It was collected in the lower Rio Mamoré drainage, along the border between Brazil and Bolivia. Marco Lacerda (Aqua-Rio, Rio de Janeiro) collected it in the Rio Pacaas-Novos, a tributary of the Mamoré along with A. staecki. The fish was first introduced to the aquarium hobby by Dr. Wolfgang Staeck, who did not give it a common name. See: Staeck, W. 1996. Neu importiert: Apistogramma aus dem Mamoré. D.A.T.Z. 49(9): 548-549. (I did an English translation of this article.) I keep an apisto list for the Apistogramma Study Group. It presently has 53 described and 77 undescribed Apistogramma species in it - not including invalid scientific names. I have 5 or 6 more to add, but don't have sufficient data (only names and collecting localities) to add them to it now. I have a friend in the Netherlands with whom I correspond. He has a copy of this list. I will send his name, address, and telephone number to you on a personal e-mail. I believe he can help you with your list. Hope this is of some help. best wishes Mike Wise Technical Editor Apistogramma Study Group Jan Busser wrote: > Hi all, > > This is my first mail to the mailing list. Excuse my poor English > (sometimes) but I'm from Holland so.... > Okay, here's my question. > Recently I recieved an email from somone who visited Guyana and brought back > some Apisto's. He sended me an email with an attachment; a picture from that > (beautifull) male apisto. > The species was found in Anai. He brought back some animals and asked me if > I knew which species it was. > Allthough I'm breeding and keeping Apisto's for over 17 years, I really > don't know which species it is. > Now a little problem: I have a full color JPG picture of the species but > this mailing list recommands no attachments. I have been thinking how I can > show you the picture otherwise and I have found a way. > I will place the picture in a newsgroup: > Rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids With the header: Which Apisto is this. > The hobbyists which are able to view this binary: Please look and try to > help me. > Why all this trouble, you may ask? > First: Next week I will obtain a copple of these animals. > Second (and much more important) I am developing a registration-system in > Holland with a friend of mine (not only Apisto's but every aquariumfish! A > hell of a job!) > We are trying to give every wild-cought and F1-fish a code which indicates > the place of habbitat and the date of first import in Holland. Besides thad > I am the chairman of the "Breeding commission" in Holland which coordinates > the breeding of aquariumfish in holland, this also calls for a very good > administration. > If this apisto is a new species, okay: than it will be Apistogramma species > Anai'97 for the time being but if the fish is already determanated I realy > like to know. > > Second short question.... > In holland there's a new species (kind of simmulair to A.trifasciatum) which > is called "Apistogramma mamorae" > No book, no Apisto-breeder and nothing on the internet gives someting about > this species and I think that it's an made-up name, but if not: I realy like > to know more about this animal. > > Thanks for helping me out. > > Jan Busser, Holland. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------