Although I`ve only recently started keeping Apistogramma, I have kept and bred Cichlids in the past. With barely a few weeks on the mailing list, I have noticed a lot of traffic that mentions or questions aspects relevant to removing/raising eggs and fry. My interest in Cichlids started precisely because of their fascinating parental care. My tanks are designed to keep and breed fish, providing cover, breeding cavities/surfaces and feeding grounds for the fry. Heavily planted, "oversized" tanks always did the trick and it also seems to work with my first Apistos. I have seen a few messages referring to poor parental behaviour, probably causing the keeper to move eggs/fry from the tank and causing all sorts of difficulties or, at least, additional work to raise the juveniles. All wild-caught cichlids I`ve kept always showed great parental behaviour, but that might have been luck. Most of the aberrant behaviour I have seen came from captive-bred species, which leads me to believe that parental care must be, at least partially, learned behaviour. I suppose that removing eggs and/or fry will produce adults with an "incomplete education." I have seen this in "Cichlasoma" salvini, meeki and pasione. I read several very interesting - and emphatic - comments regarding the possible release of hybrid Apistos into the hobby and I wonder about the release of breeding stock with poor parental behaviour. Are there any references that document this in Apistos ? Peter Rockstroh plasticolor@guate.net