Hello all' I did it! My first official apisto spawn. A. pertensis. Right now she is herding a flock of about 50 fry. This was my set up- 20 G long Bogwood, swords,anubias,ambulia Oak leaves,2 flower pots 5pH,30ppm,84' Waters Of The World SA I'm feeding frozen brine, bloodworms,mosquito larvae and blackworms Also in the tank are a pair of Panduro (they are on the opposite end of the tank) and a trio of D. filamentosus. There has been no aggression- territories seem to be well defined by the pieces of wood. I had no idea she'd spawned, although she had been a little reclusive for a few days. I think I'm going to leave the fry with her, seeing it's her first, and see what happens. I'm so pleased I had to let you all know!! Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!