Thanks, Simone. How often are you doing water changes? I found that my >rams and other apistos spawned readily if I didn't do water changes for >a couple weeks at a time. Mostly, just leave them alone and let them do >what they are going to do. That's what happenned with my Nannochromis too. I went on vacation, come back- BANG they've spawned. I sometimes wonder if we get a little too enthusiastic about water changes. If you leave them alone a few weeks then do a water change , I think that emulates a dry season/wet season better than changing 10% twice a week. just my dos pesetas Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!