hi, My borelli seem to grow about as fast as other Apistos, and faster than my nijsseni. I feed primarily bbs, but lots of it. Also they get a squirt of daphnia with cyclops(there are always tiny ones they can eat), and I agree with Kacey, a pinch of finely ground flake is good. I use earthworm flake that someone suggested several months ago. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!