Hi all I asked Alf Stalsberg - who collected this fish - what he thought and I'm posting part of his reply as I thought it would be of interest- "I would agree with you that A. "Blutkehl looks like the Segelflossen. The reason for me to use the name Blutkehl is that I collect the fish in Colombia in 1991 and 1993 out in Caņo Bocon out in Puerto Inirida. Then I found in one of my books (on German) a fish that was exactly like my male and they call the fish Apistogramma sp. "Blutkehl" because the fish had big red spots under his cheeck." Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!